Curious...You guys seen WW2OL..Beta Rag Doll and other stuff?

[68ZooM]

I have to make a remark about this Ack-Ack.  You are right, AHII
is not a WW2 flight sim although, looking at the ads they have
produced you would find it hard to see such a distinction.
In fact, the ads strongly imply that it is a WWII aerial combat
game. EDIT::
And thats just what it is,, you can dogfight with WW2 Aircraft, and further more you dont need ground vehicals to cap a base in this game.. there an added bonus and becomming more popular with the players.

 Furthermore, I suspect that the increasing popularity of
FSO, Snapshots and Scenarios give mute testimony to the
general desire of players for a WWII aerial combat simulation.

my comment to this is the reason alot of us do them is to.. yes to fly a senerio or FSO but also it gives squads a chance to fly with alot of other squads they would other-wise be fighting against in the MA and get to know them as people and get and give respect, ive meet alot of great people from other squads bish and rookWith respect to problems with WWIIOL.  Sure, it has them.
AHII has its share of issues that need to be resolved as
well.  No game is perfect and each has to be evaluated based on
an individual player's desires and expectations.  totaly agree here

One of the big elements that kept me playing AHII for many years
were the friendships I formed during that period.  In time, I found the
prospect of leaving my friends behind more distasteful than leaving
the game.  However, with the arrival of the much maligned
arena caps, that attachment became more and more strained
as I could rarely get into our squad's chosen arena without
playing that 'game' of jumping in and out of the other arena
until slots were available.

Its a funny thing but those caps segregated me from my
friends and squadmates and proved to be the impetus for
my experimenting with WWIIOL.

But as they say, no change is without consequences.
Some are intended, but many are not.

Caps things i really dont beleive... Our squad is BIG and never seem to have that problem

[Vulcan]

Well I do not blame u at all for that... I did not start this post and I was simply stating the facts cause I play ww2ol everyday... So I think I have a good idea of what is gong on in the game...But ack-ack is still a flaming homo

And so did many of us, some of us have played ww2ol on and off since the beta days (2001 iirc). You spout the history of ww2ol, well I played WB through to about version 2.x, then switched to the AH beta and shortly after got into the WW2OL beta. Many of my friends went to WW2OL, some to work. My mentor in WB gryf worked there, as did others such as corn.

My problem is with CRS, not so much the game, or the old bugs, but the way they addressed problems. For example, the 109 and 110 wobble problems were rabidly denied for years, now I understand it is fixed. If there is a problem, CRS's habit is to deny it, at the same time belittle players who experience it, and delete and close down evidence posted to support the case. It left me with a very bitter taste in my mouth, and to be honest until certain people depart CRS I'd struggle to bring myself back to ww2ol.

[Flipperk]

And so did many of us, some of us have played ww2ol on and off since the beta days (2001 iirc). You spout the history of ww2ol, well I played WB through to about version 2.x, then switched to the AH beta and shortly after got into the WW2OL beta. Many of my friends went to WW2OL, some to work. My mentor in WB gryf worked there, as did others such as corn.

My problem is with CRS, not so much the game, or the old bugs, but the way they addressed problems. For example, the 109 and 110 wobble problems were rabidly denied for years, now I understand it is fixed. If there is a problem, CRS's habit is to deny it, at the same time belittle players who experience it, and delete and close down evidence posted to support the case. It left me with a very bitter taste in my mouth, and to be honest until certain people depart CRS I'd struggle to bring myself back to ww2ol.

I partically agree here, there were alot of problems that CRS would not adress awhile back...but they have gotten better with adressing the issues.

[Vulcan]

I have to make a remark about this Ack-Ack.  You are right, AHII
is not a WW2 flight sim although, looking at the ads they have
produced you would find it hard to see such a distinction.
In fact, the ads strongly imply that it is a WWII aerial combat
game.  Furthermore, I suspect that the increasing popularity of
FSO, Snapshots and Scenarios give mute testimony to the
general desire of players for a WWII aerial combat simulation.

With respect to problems with WWIIOL.  Sure, it has them.
AHII has its share of issues that need to be resolved as
well.  No game is perfect and each has to be evaluated based on
an individual player's desires and expectations.

One of the big elements that kept me playing AHII for many years
were the friendships I formed during that period.  In time, I found the
prospect of leaving my friends behind more distasteful than leaving
the game.  However, with the arrival of the much maligned
arena caps, that attachment became more and more strained
as I could rarely get into our squad's chosen arena without
playing that 'game' of jumping in and out of the other arena
until slots were available.

Its a funny thing but those caps segregated me from my
friends and squadmates and proved to be the impetus for
my experimenting with WWIIOL.

But as they say, no change is without consequences.
Some are intended, but many are not.

You could argue the same points about WW2OL. In no way does it reflect the real style of combat or command that went on in WW2 (if it did for example the french wouldn't have radio's in tanks, aircraft wouldn't go off in one off missions etc). It merely replicates a bunch of weaponry and vehicles for players to use. (I don't think this is a bad thing btw)

As you've pointed out events such as FSO do bring us closer though - to the point I'd say that FSO gives a better 'ww2 experience'. And imho the MA is just practise for the events.

[Stott]

New Ragdoll video and it seems China had its first stress test. They said about 1k were on just shooting each other.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3SggazrzAw&feature=player_embedded#t=60

[Flipperk]

You could argue the same points about WW2OL. In no way does it reflect the real style of combat or command that went on in WW2 (if it did for example the french wouldn't have radio's in tanks, aircraft wouldn't go off in one off missions etc). It merely replicates a bunch of weaponry and vehicles for players to use. (I don't think this is a bad thing btw)

As you've pointed out events such as FSO do bring us closer though - to the point I'd say that FSO gives a better 'ww2 experience'. And imho the MA is just practise for the events.

True, but there is one major difference, WW2OL is a FSO 24/7. The map and the way you have to play the game is setup to gear towards having a front and wanting to win.

[Vulcan]

True, but there is one major difference, WW2OL is a FSO 24/7. The map and the way you have to play the game is setup to gear towards having a front and wanting to win.

No it is not, that is utter rubbish. I think you need to play in an FSO to understand.

[Flipperk]

Yeah i have attended many FSO. In WW2OL (at least with my squad) we always did huge group attacks and defenses. never a random go where you want to fight, like with the MA (which is the main focus of AH)

you will never see a 109 v 109 fight in WW2OL ... and I hate to wait for a 2 hour event only 1 day a week in order to get a WW2 Experience

[Sonicblu]

I didnt know that there was any other game out there besides AHII

I have played some of the senerios and they do have more of the WWII immersion type play.

I just want to play the best Aerial combat sim out there, and I think it has it as far as dog fighting.

I don't care if it is same plane vs same plane or not. Its the pilot i like to fight.

 

[Charge]

"For example, the 109 and 110 wobble problems were rabidly denied for years, now I understand it is fixed."

Well it feels more like some bandage was put over the problem by reducing the output speed and magnitude, pretty much the same fix built in that was available earlier as a control mod to reduce the max deflection.

-C+

[Vulcan]

you will never see a 109 v 109 fight in WW2OL ... and I hate to wait for a 2 hour event only 1 day a week in order to get a WW2 Experience

Of course not, you could never model anything outside of that map like Finland for example.

I was in one of the biggest Axis squads in WW2OL, and I'm sorry you don't get the same stuff as FSO in WW2OL. Maybe you think spawning masses of troops from a beddy of laffly is a WW2 experience, but it ain't for me