fastest level flight prop plane of WWII

[LLv34_Snefens]

 

Originally posted by Sascha JG 77:
Hmm I thought the Do 335 Pfeil was the fastest prop plane of the war? Anyone got the numbers on this one?

The 'Arrow' was fast but I don't think the fastest. I have it listed at 477mph at 21,000ft. Besides I don't think it was engaged in any fight before the end of the war, although available in limited numbers.

heh, on another note, while looking at its data I see it got quite an impressing landing run. If it used its front airscrews reversible pitch ability it had a landing run of 580 yards. Quite nice for a aircraft weighing more than 21,000 lbs (2/3 of an empty B17)

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Ltn. Snefens
RO, Lentolaivue 34

[juzz]

Warning! Warning! Uberplane alert!!

Martin-Baker M.B.5
Four 20-mm British Hispano Mk. II cannon in the wings. Maximum speed was 395 mph at sea level, 425 mph at 6000 feet, 460 mph at 20,000 feet. Initial climb rate was 3800 feet/minutes. Climb rate at 7000 feet was 4000 feet/minute. The airplane could climb to 20,000 feet in 6.5 minutes, and could reach 34,000 feet in 15 minutes. Service ceiling 40,000 feet. Weights were 9233 lbs empty, 11,000 lbs normal loaded. Wing area was 262.64 square feet.

North American P-51H Mustang
Powered by a 2218 hp Packard V-1560-9 Merlin twelve-cylinder V-type liquid cooled engine. Armed with 6 0.50-inch machine guns, plus provisions for two 500-pound or 1000-pound bombs. 444 mph at 5000 feet, 463 mph at 15,000 feet, 487 mph at 25,000 feet. Climb to 5000 feet in 1.5 minutes, to 15,000 feet in 5 minutes. Service ceiling was 41,600 feet. 6585 lbs empty, 9500 lbs normal loaded. Range was 755 miles (clean). Wing area was 235 sq ft.

Republic P-47M Thunderbolt
Powered by a 2800 hp Pratt & Whitney R-2800-57 18-cylinder air-cooled radial. Armed with six or eight 0.50-inch machine guns in the wings. Maximum speed of 400 mph at 10,000 feet, 453 mph at 25,000 feet, 470 mph at 30,000 feet. 3500 ft/min initial climb at 5000 feet. Range was 560 miles (clean). Weights were 10,423 pounds empty, 13,275 lbs normal loaded. Wing area was 322 square feet.

Republic XP-47J Thunderbolt
Powered by a 2800 hp Pratt & Whitney R-2800-57 18-cylinder air-cooled radial. Armed with six 0.50-inch machine guns in the wings. Maximum speed of 507 mph at 34,300 feet. Climb to 15,000 feet in 4.5 minutes. Service ceiling was 45,000 feet. Range was 1070 miles at economical cruising speed. Weights were 9663 pounds empty, 12,400 lbs normal loaded. Wing area was 300 square feet.

Republic XP-72
Powered by a 3450 hp Pratt & Whitney R-4360-13 Wasp Major 28-cylinder air-cooled radial. Armed with six 0.50-inch machine guns in the wings, plus two 1000-lb bombs. Maximum speed of 490 mph at 25,000 feet. Initial climb rate was 5280 ft/min, and could reach 15,000 feet in 3.5 minutes. Range was 1200 miles at economical cruising speed of 300 mph. Service ceiling was 42,000 feet. Weights were 11,476 pounds empty, 14,433 lbs normal loaded. Wing area was 300 square feet.

Focke-Wulf Ta 152C-3
Powered by a Daimler-Benz DB 603L twelve-cylinder inverted-Vee liquid cooled engine which could be boosted by MW 50 (methanol/water) injection to give a maximum power output of 2100 hp. Armed with one engine-mounted 30-mm MK 103 and four 20-mm MG 151 cannon (2 in wing roots, two in upper fuselage deck). Maximum speed was 339 mph at sea level, 439 mph at 37,000 feet, 463 mph at 34,000 feet with MW 50 boost. Initial climb rate was 3050 feet/minute. Service ceiling was 40,350 feet. Range was 745 miles at 372 mph at 32,800 feet. Weights were 9058 lbs empty, 11,025 lbs normal loaded. Wing area was 216 square feet.

Messerschmitt Bf 109K-4
Powered by a Daimler-Benz DB 605 ASCM/DCM twelve-cylinder inverted-Vee liquid cooled engine which could be boosted by MW 50 injection to give a maximum power output of 2000 hp for takeoff. Armed with one engine-mounted 30-mm MK 108 (or MK 103) cannon and two 13-mm MG 131 machineguns in upper fuselage deck. Maximum speed was 377 mph at sea level, 452 mph at 19,685 feet Initial climb rate was 4823 feet/minute. Service ceiling was 42,000 feet. Range was 355 miles. Weight was 7438 lbs normal loaded. Wing area was 174.38 square feet.

Supermarine Spitfire Mk. 21
Powered by 2050 hp Rolls-Royce Griffon 61 twelve-cylinder Vee liquid-cooled engine. Armed with four 20-mm Hispano Mk. II cannon in the wings plus one 500-lb and two 250-lb bombs. Maximum speed was 420 mph at 12,000 feet and 454 mph at 26,000 feet. Could climb to 20,000 feet in 8 minutes. Range with maximum internal fuel was 880 miles. Weights were 6900 lbs empty, 9200 lbs maximum loaded. Wing area was 244 square feet.

Supermarine Spiteful
Powered by 2375 hp Rolls-Royce Griffon 69 twelve-cylinder Vee liquid-cooled engine. Armed with four 20-mm Hispano Mk. V cannon in the wings. Maximum speed was 409 mph at sea level, 437 mph at 5500 feet and 483 mph at 26,000 feet. Initial climb rate was 4828 ft/min. Could climb to 20,000 feet in 4.9 minutes. Range with maximum internal fuel was 564 miles. Weights were 7350 lbs empty, 9950 lbs maximum loaded. Wing area was 210 square feet.

Hawker Tempest Mk. II
Powered by 2520 hp Bristol Centaurus V eighteen-cylinder air-cooled radial. Armed with four 20-mm Hispano Mk. V cannon plus two 1000-lb bombs. Maximum speed was 440 mph at 15,900 feet, 417 mph at 5000 feet. Range was 775 miles with maximum internal fuel. Initial climb rate was 4520 ft/min. An altitude of 20,000 feet could be reached in 5.6 minutes. Service ceiling was 37,000 feet. Weights were 9300 pounds empty, 11,800 pounds loaded. Wing area was 303.7 square feet.

Hawker Tempest Mk. V
Powered by a 2200 hp Napier Sabre IIB 24-cylinder horizontal-H liquid-cooled engine. Armed with four 20-mm Hispano Mk. V cannon plus two 1000-lb bombs. Maximum speed was 392 mph at sea level, 416 mph at 4600 feet, 435 mph at 17,000 feet. Range was 820 miles with maximum internal fuel. Initial climb rate was 4700 ft/min. An altitude of 20,000 feet could be reached in 6.1 minutes. Service ceiling was 36,000 feet. Weights were 9250 pounds empty, 11,400 pounds loaded. Wing area was 302 square feet.

Hawker Fury
Powered by a 3055 hp Napier Sabre VII 24-cylinder horizontal-H liquid-cooled engine. Armed with four 20-mm Hispano Mk. V cannon plus two 1000-lb bombs. Maximum speed was 457 mph at 8000 feet, 485 mph at 18,500 feet. Range was 1480 miles with two 45 Imp gall drop tanks. Initial climb rate was 5240 ft/min. An altitude of 24,000 feet could be reached in 6 minutes. Service ceiling was 41,500 feet. Weights were 9350 pounds empty, 12,120 pounds loaded. Wing area was 284.5 square feet.

Grumman F8F-1 Bearcat
Powered by a 2100 hp Pratt & Whitney R-2800-34W eighteen-cylinder radial air-cooled engine. Armed with four 0.5-in machine guns. Maximum speed was 382 mph at sea level, 421 mph at 19,700 feet. Initial climb rate was 4570 feet/minute. Service ceiling was 38,700 feet. Weights were 7070 lbs empty, 9836 lbs normal loaded. Wing area was 244 square feet.

North American XP-82 Twin Mustang
Powered by two 1860 hp Packard Merlin V-1650-23/25 twelve-cylinder Vee liquid-cooled engines. Armed with six 0.50-in machine guns in center wing, plus two 2000-lb or four 1000-lb bombs. Maximum speed was 482 mph at 25,100 feet. Range was 1390 miles. Could climb to 20,000 feet in 7 minutes. Service ceiling was 41,600 feet. Weights were 13,405 lbs empty, 19,100 lbs normal loaded. Wing area was 408 square feet.

Goodyear F2G-1
Powered by a 3000 hp Pratt and Whitney R-4360-4 Wasp Major 28-cylinder radial air-cooled engine. Armed with four 0.50-in machine guns in the wing, plus two 1000-lb or two 1600-lb bombs. Maximum speed was 399 mph at sea level, 431 mph at 16,400 feet. Range was 1190 miles. Initial climb rate was 4400 feet/min. Service ceiling was 38,800 feet. Weights were 10,249 lbs empty, 13,346 lbs normal loaded. Wing area was 314 square feet.

[niklas]

11 Do-335 -A1 were delivered to the army, with ~475 mph@21K.

The reconaissonce variant, the Do-335 -A4 reached (without weapons) 490 Mph @ 21K

Dornier had some nice projects at the end of the war, though i never heard that a real plane was build.

Do P.247.6 :Jumo 213T 1*2000PS , engine in the fuselage behind the pilot, propeller at the end, for jabo. new "arrow" wing design. Maxspeed ~518 Mph@ 0ft

Do. P.252/1 : 2* jumo 213J  2*1740Ps, both engines in the fuselage behind the pilot, and two propeller at the end (one after the other). Maxspeed ~560Mph@23K

[Westy]

 And about 20 P-82A's were delivered to the USAAF before the end of the war.

 

-Westy


(cod, I love this uber plane stuff. Love the early stuff too btw)

[Pongo]

Originally posted by juzz:
Warning! Warning! Uberplane alert!!

Martin-Baker M.B.5
Ill take em all...but this one first..eversince I saw the write up in planes of fame I loved this plane.
(martin wanted 6 20s in it....)

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Pongo
The Wrecking Crew

[Karnak]

The fastest prop aircraft that was actually used in significant numbers was, to my knowledge, the Bf-109K at 452.  The fastest allied in number was the Spifire Mk XIV at 448.  Altitude of course changes everything.

All the talk of experimental or never used-too late to see action stuff is kinda silly IMHO.

Sisu

[Vermillion]

Karnak, I agree that all this talk of experimental, very small production, not actually in the war aircraft is silly if we stick to the original topic (ie no fantasy aircraft).

But the Republic P-47N, which was widely used in the Pacific in 1944-45 (1,667 built), was faster than both the Bf109K4 at 452 mph (700 built)and the Spitfire XIV at 448 mph (975 built).

It could reach 463mph.

Can any of the aircraft that people have mentioned, that actually served in the war, had over 500 built, and was piston/propellor engined, go faster than that?

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Vermillion
**MOL**, Men of Leisure
"Desperately trying to figure out why Kamikaze Pilots wore helmets"

[Karnak]

Vermillion, off topic, but I note that by our qualifications, we would have eliminated the F4U-1C which is in the sim.  

By the way, kamikaze pilots wore helmets to increase their chances of reaching the target.

Sisu

[Westy]

However, we open the door for the F4U-4!  

 http://home.att.net/~historyzone/F4U-4.html

-Westy

[-rkat-]

Bloom25 was refering to this little beastie:

 

Only 1 example of the CA-15 was ever built before the jet age caught up with the CAC builders. It would have been an outstanding fighter, infact the fastest piston engined fighter of all time with a top speed of 502.2mph in a speed test over Melbourne. She was designed as a long range fighter for the RAAF and first flew in march of 1946. Originally designed with the Pratt and Whitney R-2800 radial engine in mind, the design had to be changed in 1944 when the R-2800 was no longer being made available to the RAAF. Instead the Griffin 61 V12 engine (which was later found to perfectly suite this airframe)  was chosen as a replacement untill the new Griffon 120 V-12 was made available to the RAAF. This change plus offical disinterest delayed the production of the CA-15 which could have entered service in 1944/45. The CA-15 Kangaroo was an outstanding aircraft and proved that australian designers could design aircraft to world standards.

[-rkat-]

oops - double post.



[This message has been edited by -rkat- (edited 03-30-2000).]

[skippy]

FW190-TKA

[funked]

Juzz you forgot Ta 152H which was the production version.  Ta 152C was prototype only.  H had higher maximum speed anyways...

Karnak, Ta 152, P-47M, P-47N were hardly "experimental or never used-too late to see action stuff".  Both were in production and in service with combat units by the end of the war.



[This message has been edited by funked (edited 04-03-2000).]

[juzz]

I stole all that off a webpage on the M.B.5 - like I would type all that out myself?  

[funked]

LOL!