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Offline Lazerr

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Stuttering returns in patch 8
« on: August 26, 2009, 08:05:58 PM »
Gettin stutters again, no pattern, very random.

1028/768 resolution, 1024 textures.

System Information
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Time of this report: 8/19/2009, 20:43:11
       Machine name: YOUR-XHTR8HVC4P
   Operating System: Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3 (2600.xpsp.080413-2111)
           Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: HP Pavilion 061
       System Model: DM181A-ABA a305w
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          Processor: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.70GHz
             Memory: 1014MB RAM
          Page File: 142MB used, 2301MB available
        Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
    DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
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        Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
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          Input Tab: No problems found.
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Offline gyrene81

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Re: Stuttering returns in patch 8
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2009, 08:45:13 PM »
Ok Lazerr...so what have you tried to adjust? Notice the new self shadow options?

I'm still getting the stutter effect but it's not as bad as last night...and I've tried everything possible. For me it's redraw process issue...and I'm hoping one of the HTC guys can help me get rid of it.
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Offline Lazerr

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Re: Stuttering returns in patch 8
« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2009, 11:27:09 PM »
I have everything off.... Bumpmap is the only thing enabled. :aok
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Offline gyrene81

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Re: Stuttering returns in patch 8
« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2009, 09:17:02 AM »
Will your video card run Nvidia drivers any newer than this?
Driver Date/Size: 10/29/2004

Try cranking your video card refresh rate to 72hz.

What happens with 512 or even 256 textures?

Probably not going to make a difference but had to ask.
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Offline Lazerr

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Re: Stuttering returns in patch 8
« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2009, 01:29:43 PM »
Still stutters at 512.. I flat wont fly at 256 textures.  The newest drivers that work for me are the 66.93.  Are you getting the stutters too?
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Offline gyrene81

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Re: Stuttering returns in patch 8
« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2009, 01:46:52 PM »
Yeah but the stuttering is slower than it was with patch 7 and not quite noticeable...tried upgrading my drivers to see if that would help but it didn't. Even upgraded my sound drivers.

I've been through every setting I can think of short of overclocking my video card but nothing works...the stuttering occurs regardless of plane type or view, even external on a bomber...patch 6 worked very well for my system using 1024 textures and the hi res pack...gotta be something in the rendering system.

I have some questions but I doubt they will get answered so I'll just wait and do the best I can with what's available.
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Re: Stuttering returns in patch 8
« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2009, 05:51:49 PM »
Personally I think it the maps.  Some maps I get great FPS.  Others I get 1/2 the fps.  Take KOTH08 map for instance.  I get only 40-50 fps on that map and I think it because it all the trees and shrubs on it.  I go to some of the MA maps, for get which ones but I can get 60fps all day long maxed out on everything.  It hard to see if it the patch or if it the map because the maps have changed around the same time as a patch update.  Need to have the same map to verify what it is, wherter it be the terrian or the patch.
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Re: Stuttering returns in patch 8
« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2009, 08:51:38 PM »
I get small random pauses that are very annoying but different from the stuttering I had in the initial release of 2.14 for example. It is very hard to describe an event that last maybe 0.2 secs but these pauses some how seem slight longer that the stutters and different in nature in a way that is indeed hard to describe. They came with the Patch 7 and didn't go a away with the Patch 8. :( I did suspect that it could be my system as I didn't notice them right after the Patch 7 and checked my system for viruses/spyware with AVG/AdAware but didn't find anything. I did some testing with Condor soaringsimulator and I didn't see any pauses or stutters with it.

DxDiag:

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System Information
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Time of this report: 8/28/2009, 04:37:18
       Machine name: DB605A-1
   Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3 (2600.xpsp.080413-2111)
           Language: English (Regional Setting: Finnish)
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       System Model: To Be Filled By O.E.M.
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        Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
    DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
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        Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
          Music Tab: No problems found.
          Input Tab: No problems found.
        Network Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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DirectInput: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (n/a)
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Offline comet61

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Re: Stuttering returns in patch 8
« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2009, 02:31:34 AM »
I just noticed for the first time that I am getting minor stuttering. A little annoying. Didn't have the problems in patch 6 or 7, but 8 has my game "off" a little.  :cry Will be messing with settings later and see what happens.
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Re: Stuttering returns in patch 8
« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2009, 02:32:58 PM »
Is there any more patches to be expected for the latest release which might address this issue?

I still sometimes see small terrain objects which have unloaded textures. I don't know if it's related to this problem or not.

The only andvanced graphics option that I have on is the detailed terrain.

The patch 6 worked great on my end but now the game is at times almost unplayable for me. :(

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Re: Stuttering returns in patch 8
« Reply #10 on: September 13, 2009, 06:38:55 PM »
Doh!

Sorry Pyro and the gang that I punted this thread up. I totally missed the "Patch 8 stutter questionnaire" -sticky you had posted on the 3rd. :o
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