Fw 190F-8

[Jimdandy]

 

Originally posted by Ripsnort:

Why someone would fly only one plane type (or country type) is way beyond me....

I will say this first. I'll fly what ever is available to do the job needed at the time. That said I can see a very good reason to fly the same plane types all of the time especially in a very squad/team oriented group. I've found that the more I fly a single plane type the better I am with it. That's only logical. If your a very team oriented squad that tries to go up together on every run it is to your advantage to wing a guy with the same aircraft. It's hard to wing when your aircraft preforms very differently from your flight leader. Winging a F4U with a G2 is tuffer because both planes have such different flight characteristics. One of the things I had always wanted to do on these games is wing with a group of the same planes. It's fun to get up in a group in the same plane. I would prefer to wing with the same plane type in squad operations. For example I was flying the G2 the other day and trying to wing with a P-51. It worked ok on the climb out because I could cut my throttle. When we leveled off he walked away. Nether plane could be used to it's fullest if we had really been trying to stay together. Those are some of the reasons I see to limit your plane set for your squad. I really am on this game to be part of a team effort. I love wingman flying. I really get tired of the lone wolf stuff. It really makes me feel like I'm part of a team when we're all up in the same plane and working together. That is the only complaint I have with the squad I'm in now. We all help each other but it's a bunch of individual efforts most of the time.

[Ripsnort]

 

Originally posted by StSanta:
I am a LW pilot. I am the elite. I am part of the best of the best.

StSanta in tours 1-11 FW190A8: 4.68 K/D ratio

Ripsnort in tours 1-11 FW190A8: 4.34 K/D ratio

Elite huh? <Rolls eyes>

BTW, Santa, never saw you sign up on the Ladder to prove yourself, so, your windage of hot air outweighs your flying ability by far. LOL!



[This message has been edited by Ripsnort (edited 01-24-2001).]

[StSanta]

Heh I'm yo daddy rip  

S, you USED to be an elite pilot too. Now you're an old has been.

I don't fly duels. I fly for and with my squad exclusively. WE are elite, and I am a part of we, ergo, I am elite   .

Ladder is for people with enormous egos to boost. My ego isn't big; my confidence in my abilities is.

Seriously, I am not that good a stick. I can hold my own most times but there are plenty of better pilots.

I am still elite and superior to them, since I am LW. If they too are LW (which some are) we're equals, even if they're better.

DAMNED AMERICANS. Don't spoil a perfectly good delusion, dammit!

%&/¤/( ripsnort!

 

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Baron Claus "StSanta" Von Ribbentroppen
9./JG 54 "Grünherz"
 
"I don't necessarily agree with everything I think." - A. Eldritch

[This message has been edited by StSanta (edited 01-24-2001).]

[Jochen]

 

Sorry to disagree, Jochen, but it is much easier to fly only a few flight model types than to fly all of them, but, whatever wets your whistle!

I don't agree. Pilot who flies all planes can pick best plane for his needs while dedicated pilot has to do with few choices.

Example: In base defence everything goes pilot can take N1K2 while LW pilot is limited to 109's and 190's which are not that hot in turnfighting that will ensue.

Example: In attack mode everything goes pilot can take F4U-1C with two bombs, many rockets and AP equipped cannons while LW pilot is limited to 190's with one bomb and cannons that does not kill tanks.

Also if the planes that you fly are mediocre and opposition flies best available planes, I don't think long experience in one type makes things easy.

And comparetively Lw pilots have it easy, soviet or japanese only pilots have it even worse!

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jochen Gefechtsverband Kuhlmey I/SG 5

Sieg oder bolsevismus!

[-ammo-]

 

Originally posted by Jochen:
 How did Stukas survive in eastern front until 1945?

I was thinking that stuka's were removed from service in '43? very high attrition rate.

ammo

[Jochen]

 

I was thinking that stuka's were removed from service in '43? very high attrition rate.

They were used in eastern front to the end. In finland during summer -44 Stukas of Gefechtsverband Kuhlmey flew many hundreds of daylight sorties against soviet troops without heavy losses.

Stuka was also equipment for NSGr's or night attack groups. Stukas were equipped with exhaust flame dampeners and they attacked enemy concentrations at night.

If MA would have night, Stuka could be useful.

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jochen Gefechtsverband Kowalewski

Units: I. and II./KG 51, II. and III./KG 76, NSGr 1, NSGr 2, NSGr 20.
Planes: Do 17Z, Ju 87, Ju 88A, He 111H, Ar 234A, Me 410A, Me 262A, Fw 190F, Fw 190G.

Sieg oder bolsevismus!

[Jochen]

Up up and away!

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jochen Gefechtsverband Kowalewski

Units: I. and II./KG 51, II. and III./KG 76, NSGr 1, NSGr 2, NSGr 20.
Planes: Do 17Z, Ju 87, Ju 88A, He 111H, Ar 234A, Me 410A, Me 262A, Fw 190F, Fw 190G.

Sieg oder bolsevismus!

[nonoht]

 

Originally posted by Jochen:



If MA would have night, Stuka could be useful.

so HTC had to remove icon during night otherwise its too easy

[Animal]

night would work great if night planes could see icons farther than normal planes.

Pyro please consider the Fw 190F-8

[StSanta]

Or G8, even better  

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Baron Claus "StSanta" Von Ribbentroppen
9./JG 54 "Grünherz"

"I don't necessarily agree with everything I think." - A. Eldritch

[Nath-BDP]

Read this StSanta... G-8 is not better than the F-8.


 

"Despite its later designation, the Fw 190G preceded the Fw 190F, and was in essence the production version of the Fw 190A-4/U8 and Fw 190A-5/U3. The extra range required in this model was provided in part by the sacrifice of the two fuselage mounted machine guns to leave the two 20mm MG 151/20 cannon in the wing roots as the only fixed armament, and in part by the provision of attachments for two 79.25 US gal (300 liter) drop tanks under the wings."
Essentially, the G-8 was intended to be a long-range fighter-bomber or jabo, they were usually equipped with 2 wing mounted 300 liter drop tanks when on missions. Production of the G series stopped in the Spring of 1944 essentially because the LW ceased it's long range missions in the Spring. It now favored the F series for attack missions, since a long-range fighter bomber was not needed.

The F-8 would be a much better choice than the G-8, a) later R(Ruestaze) and U (umrust-baustaze; field and factory conversion sets, respectivly) designations of the F-8 allowed it to carry the same load as the G-8, also panzerblitz1&2 and R4M rocketsb) We have the chance of getting the Galland-haube canopy. d)It's faster.

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Nath_____
9./JG 54 "Grünherz"
 

A captured Bolshevik pilot once stated, "In battle, the fighters with the green hearts are generally in the minority. But when they're there, things realy heat up. They're all aces!"

[This message has been edited by Nath-BDP (edited 01-29-2001).]

[StSanta]

Thanks nath, I went on the letter designation.

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Baron Claus "StSanta" Von Ribbentroppen
9./JG 54 "Grünherz"

"I don't necessarily agree with everything I think." - A. Eldritch

[Jochen]

Imagine if F-8 could be one of the four variants that we will get in 1.06!

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jochen Gefechtsverband Kowalewski

Units: I. and II./KG 51, II. and III./KG 76, NSGr 1, NSGr 2, NSGr 20.
Planes: Do 17Z, Ju 87, Ju 88A, He 111H, Ar 234A, Me 410A, Me 262A, Fw 190F, Fw 190G.

Sieg oder bolsevismus!

[Jochen]

Imagine that some folks really think that F-8 has GM-1 boost... What would ground attack plane do with high altitude performance enchancing boost system? Nothing.

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jochen Gefechtsverband Kowalewski

Units: I. and II./KG 51, II. and III./KG 76, NSGr 1, NSGr 2, NSGr 20.
Planes: Do 17Z, Ju 87, Ju 88A, He 111H, Ar 234A, Me 410A, Me 262A, Fw 190F, Fw 190G.

Sieg oder bolsevismus!

[StSanta]

Jochen, a similar analogy wouldbe "what would French people do with soap?", yet they try to sell soap there  

See yanks? I attack pother nationalities, too  

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Baron Claus "StSanta" Von Ribbentroppen
9./JG 54 "Grünherz"

"I don't necessarily agree with everything I think." - A. Eldritch