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Offline fudgums

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« Reply #15 on: September 15, 2009, 08:20:41 PM »
watch out when they get a little older, they'll try to assert dominance and bam, dog fight. but cool pics  :aok

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« Reply #16 on: September 15, 2009, 08:24:41 PM »
The pitbull was bread for fighting. There is tens or even hundreds of thousands of generations of breeding to get the animal you see now. There is absolutely nothing you can do in one generation to take this instinct out of the dog. You might think your dog is different, its gentle. You may even get lucky and never have a problem. But you are playing with a loaded gun, and once you pull the trigger there might be nothing that will stop it except breaking its jaw or killing it.
Sorry man, it only takes 40 generations to create a "purebred"...the Pitbull Terrier is a newer breed unlike the Staffordshire Terrier or Rottweiler.

The American Pit Bull Terrier started out as a semi wild livestock catcher. Although many people in the Western world have bred them for pit fighting, the "bred in nature" if you will is to attack wild animals for their masters. The fighting characteristic can be bred out if someone wanted to "pollute the breed"...personally I've only seen idiots own pitbulls that were aggressive toward humans...and any dog breed can be made uncontrollably aggressive toward humans. I raised a Pit-Rottweiler mix one time...smartest, quietest and gentlest dog I ever saw...with people regardless of age that dog didn't care what you did to him...with other dogs, it was a 50/50 shot...out hunting, he was priceless.

I prefer not to own a pure Pit just because of the amount of work required to keep them in line as house pets.
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Re: stuka and tank...
« Reply #17 on: September 15, 2009, 08:59:14 PM »
Sorry man, it only takes 40 generations to create a "purebred"...the Pitbull Terrier is a newer breed unlike the Staffordshire Terrier or Rottweiler.

The American Pit Bull Terrier started out as a semi wild livestock catcher. Although many people in the Western world have bred them for pit fighting, the "bred in nature" if you will is to attack wild animals for their masters. The fighting characteristic can be bred out if someone wanted to "pollute the breed"...personally I've only seen idiots own pitbulls that were aggressive toward humans...and any dog breed can be made uncontrollably aggressive toward humans. I raised a Pit-Rottweiler mix one time...smartest, quietest and gentlest dog I ever saw...with people regardless of age that dog didn't care what you did to him...with other dogs, it was a 50/50 shot...out hunting, he was priceless.

I prefer not to own a pure Pit just because of the amount of work required to keep them in line as house pets.

That's where the "bull" in bull terrier came from you know.   For a long time, Pits used to be called the Nanny Dog, because they were so loving and gentle to and protective of children.  They only started to get a bad reputation when some donkeys noticed that they are very strong and muscular and agile dogs and had the potential to be fighting dogs.  As that love muffinery started to spread, the bad reputation grew.  This was a breed that at one time was the most popular and loved breed in America.  Idiots have ruined their reputation.

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They do require a lot of exercise, and you have to know how to "be in charge" of them for sure Gyrene, but, man, they're so very smart and trainable and just so willing to please you.  It is just a joy for me to be with them.  Rotts are still my favorites, but Pits come in a close second. 
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« Reply #18 on: September 15, 2009, 09:04:52 PM »
Purely anecdotal - one of my fishing partners has a pitbull - a big pitbull - damn thing is a big soft lunatic - every time I go round, she goes nuts - running round the house like a mad thing, grabbing my hand, trousers, feet etc - but she's never even come close to biting me. His family has 2 younger kids (8 and 6) and neither of them have been bitten either.

He complains when she goes mad with me there, apparently its only me she is that way around, but whilst that dog is in banzai mode, she's never even come close to worrying me or him, or, more importantly, his children (even seen the youngest try and ride her round the house - dog just looks at us as if to say "see what I have to put up with".

As I said, a purely anecdotal description of my friends hound - softest dog I know, biggest bark I know, and its big enough to knock me off me feet anytime it likes.

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« Reply #19 on: September 15, 2009, 09:45:31 PM »
They do require a lot of exercise, and you have to know how to "be in charge" of them for sure Gyrene, but, man, they're so very smart and trainable and just so willing to please you.  It is just a joy for me to be with them.  Rotts are still my favorites, but Pits come in a close second. 
I know, I've hunted with them. Like Labs only smarter with a bigger bite.  :D  I wish I could find another Rott/Pit mix...bred from family dogs of course. Wife says I have to wait for our current loveable mutt (Chow, Newfie mix) to pass away before I consider even looking...he might out live me...LOL


Pits are definately not for city apartment dwellers...that shouldn't be allowed to own anything bigger than a Rat Terrier...and then there's the morons.



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« Reply #20 on: September 15, 2009, 09:48:21 PM »
Madda,

  Good to see a rare rottie with a tail :aok

 I have "nannydogs" right now 2 in fact,mom and daughter.

 For 30 years I've raised and bred English Bullterriers and Stafordshire Bull Terriers.

 Around 10 or 12 years ago I downsized from the Bullies to the Staffies,30 lbs compared to 60 to 90 lbs for my Bullies.

 All my dogs lived with me and my family and not once did I have a problem,well this stray dog did come into the yard 1 time but that wasnt really a problem!

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« Reply #21 on: September 16, 2009, 05:26:24 PM »
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« Reply #22 on: September 16, 2009, 07:27:14 PM »
Hey, I like that!

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« Reply #23 on: September 16, 2009, 11:33:48 PM »
Pretty pup there Betty.I love dogs myself.We have always had small dogs.I have a little chihuahua.Being handicapped I needed a small one to stay in the house with me.He weighs 2 pounds.I am thinking about getting a yorkie soon.I had one before the divorce but couldnt take him with me.Here is a pic of my baby.

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