Pontiac G8 to change brands

[PewterC5]

The CTS-V had rear end problems in the first generation like mine (04-07). They still install replacement rear ends for those cars still under warranty. The problem is caused by wheel hop in these cars. There are several manufacturers making aftermarket axles that eliminate wheel hop all together and as far as I know those people with the new axles have yet to have a rear end failure or any wheel hop. The second gen cts-v (09-up) does not share the rear end problem as the first gen. To my knowledge no one has blown the rear on the second gen yet. 

[RTHolmes]

wheel hop = axle tramp?

[Masherbrum]

They used a weaker Differential in the 1st generation.   It was "upgraded" in the 2nd generation.

[PewterC5]

They used a weaker Differential in the 1st generation.   It was "upgraded" in the 2nd generation.

it was actually upgraded for the 1st gen. the 04-05 had the weakest, 06-07 got an "upgraded" case, and they have a final "upgraded" differential that came out in 08 with an upgraded pinion seal support. As far as I know the 09-up are a different diff all together and require a lot of modifications to put in a 1st gen. Either way GM failed us 1st gen owners 

[CAP1]

it was actually upgraded for the 1st gen. the 04-05 had the weakest, 06-07 got an "upgraded" case, and they have a final "upgraded" differential that came out in 08 with an upgraded pinion seal support. As far as I know the 09-up are a different diff all together and require a lot of modifications to put in a 1st gen. Either way GM failed us 1st gen owners 

that's an easy problem to fix.

vote with your wallet. go out and get a kickarse mustang. 

[PewterC5]

that's an easy problem to fix.

vote with your wallet. go out and get a kickarse mustang. 

I need a 4 door with a baby on the way...and my cadillac is faster than a mustang gt  .

[CAP1]

I need a 4 door with a baby on the way...and my cadillac is faster than a mustang gt  .

MY  has a cts. she loves it. personally, i think cadi screwed the pooch....they're kinda fudly looking. but i do agree that they are amazingly fast. 

 it's ashame that ford only made the maruader for a couple of years.

[eagl]

I need a 4 door with a baby on the way...and my cadillac is faster than a mustang gt  .

My G8 is also faster than a mustang GT, even without mods.  A $300 engine and tranny tune makes it more fun to drive too, since GM screwed the pooch quite badly with the factory transmission programming.

There are guys getting over 400hp at the wheels normally aspirated, with a cam and some bolt-ons (headers, CAI, etc).  Most guys adding blowers to the GTs are shooting for around 500hp for under $8000, and a blower on a GTX can easily get over 550hp at the wheels.  That's 500hp in a decent handling 50/50 balanced 4-door sedan for under $40k.  Add a couple grand in suspension work and for under $45k you're beating $120k+ AMG or BMW rides at the track while maintaining daily drivability in a car you're not afraid to leave in the wal-mart parking lot for an hour. 

[Xasthur]

It was GM's prior "thought process" Xasthur, which is why Waggoner needed to go.  

I'm only half serious when I rag on Americans.

I'm sure you guys will get your watermelon together with our Aussie muscle cars.

I honestly think that our sedans are just what you guys need.

Ditch the SUV rubbish and get back into the V8 4-door sedan market.

The Holden V8s have 'AFM' on their new cars, which shuts the V8 down to 4 cylinders when cruising and automatically cuts back in when you kick it in the guts.

For a V8, it means good economy.... certainly better than some hulking great SUV lump of crap.

It's time to start driving proper cars again and we all need to unite!   

[CAP1]

My G8 is also faster than a mustang GT, even without mods.  A $300 engine and tranny tune makes it more fun to drive too, since GM screwed the pooch quite badly with the factory transmission programming.

There are guys getting over 400hp at the wheels normally aspirated, with a cam and some bolt-ons (headers, CAI, etc).  Most guys adding blowers to the GTs are shooting for around 500hp for under $8000, and a blower on a GTX can easily get over 550hp at the wheels.  That's 500hp in a decent handling 50/50 balanced 4-door sedan for under $40k.  Add a couple grand in suspension work and for under $45k you're beating $120k+ AMG or BMW rides at the track while maintaining daily drivability in a car you're not afraid to leave in the wal-mart parking lot for an hour. 

you're gonna have diehard in here telling ya how nothing can beat the porsches soon

[Xasthur]

you're gonna have diehard in here telling ya how nothing can beat the porsches soon

I love German cars, but the fact is that they have nothing to offer with the power and torque of the Aussie muscle at the same price.

More luxury, more leather, more features? Absolutely.

But you'll still be left behind at the lights.

Driving is about fun, not about how many different bloody seat-warmers you have.


German cars are good iff:
1- You have bucket-loads of money and can fork out for an M5 or Audi R8 etc etc
2- You have money and don't give a watermelon about power
3- And if you want to look 'successful' but don't care that your 318 is slow as the creeping of time.


If not, get something local.