Author Topic: IL-2 is a useless plane as it is (Read 712 times)

juzz · « **Reply #15 on:** May 26, 2001, 07:21:00 PM »

Il-2 Type 3M was the one with two NS-37 in underwing gondolas.

The PTAB bomblets should be available for the Il-2 Type 3 I think? - as well as other types of cluster munitions.

Dowding · « **Reply #16 on:** May 27, 2001, 05:10:00 AM »

NS-37 configuration wasn't very popular - the 23mm version is far more representative. The 37mm version had too much recoil and made strafing inaccurate - it also made flying the thing difficult.

Yeager · « **Reply #17 on:** May 27, 2001, 12:44:00 PM »

This overmodeling of defensive weapons like the buff guns or panzer guns is one of the worst and most unfortunate aspects of this game.
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Agreed.

One has to have sympathy for HTC as they try to create a sense of balance where appropriate even if it makes realism laughable...

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newguy · « **Reply #18 on:** May 27, 2001, 02:09:00 PM »

i am liking this plane a lot. great for hangers, and GVs. I have survived 2 direct hits from an osty, and the Mg34, are you kidding me? I dont even pay attention to that. This thing is a can opener. Nothing is better to kill tanks in, cause they cant do squat to ya! Just my .02. This may become my new favorate plane, as soon as I learn to jabo well

715 · « **Reply #19 on:** May 27, 2001, 07:20:00 PM »

My experience with the IL-2 is decidedly in the "falls a part on the first hit from anything larger caliber than a pointed stick" column. And I have been unable to kill any Panzer despite multiple hits (on side). But then I gave up on the IL-2 long before the warpage due to new version downloads had stopped, so maybe my assessment was "warped".

Vulcan · « **Reply #20 on:** May 28, 2001, 07:38:00 PM »

Well, I've seen the IL-2 take direct 37mm hits to the mid fusalage and inner wing sections and keep on trucking. I've also hit them with the tiffie, and they ARE tough. The tail is definitely the weak point. If you hit it anywhere but the outer wings or tail it will absorb more than a 17 can take in 20mm.

I've also noticed a lot of people flying them badly. IE, rolling, coming in low and slow and straight. Making easy pickings for an ostie dweeb like me. And making the 23mm next to ineffective except for detracking armour.

I think the IL-2 issues relate to how people are flying it more than anything else.

DB603 · « **Reply #21 on:** May 29, 2001, 04:19:00 PM »

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Flown IL-2 a bit.Weak tail as described above,can take a bit more 7.62 hits than other planes.37mm eats it alive.
23mm kills a Panzer/Osty/M16/M3 easily from rear or above.Rockets useless with default sight.Bombing pretty same as in FW190 for example.Turns well for it's size.
And from opposing side...facing it.Use Hartmann's trick and attack from below and aim for the engine/oil cooler.Usually bursts into fire with a single pass.Or make a risky slasher on it's tail/wings.Don't HO this sucker

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Thud · « **Reply #22 on:** May 29, 2001, 05:34:00 PM »

I've seen quite a few IL-2's take lots of Ostie hits. Purzel (I think) was the best example taking about 10 hits of 37 mm before exploding. So this plane has strongpoints and definately is a welcopme new addition as GV killer.

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Bring the Hurricane (MKIIC) to AH! (together with the Invader!)

Regurge · « **Reply #23 on:** May 29, 2001, 08:05:00 PM »

Another il-2 story. I was popping osties and panzers when one shot my engine out. Might have been a panzer that got about 30 rounds into me but i cant remember. Anyway it takes alot of 30 cal to do that. So i turned around to make a run on an osty. I was losing speed fast and ended up bellying it in, still strafing the osty as i slid toward him. I'm sure he got a couple hits on me in there too. I skidded right up to, and the through him, guns blazing, and sheared off a wing just before he blew up. After i came to a stop I exited the plane with a ditch.

Thats one solid mofo!