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Offline StokesAk

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Re: Bet with a teacher
« Reply #15 on: September 29, 2009, 08:23:31 PM »
At my high school they dont even let you have anything on your desktop.  :furious
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Re: Bet with a teacher
« Reply #16 on: September 29, 2009, 08:35:44 PM »
Here's a site to try...
http://slip.4.pl/

There's always proxy sites to try, or you could beam it, or you could try the good ol' fashioned IP address (in command panel, ping website, ie ping www.flyaceshigh.com, get the IP address and put it in manually). Many, many MANY ways to do it, most though, odds are, are blocked. ;) As a school tech for our school district though, we have a program which allows us to see everything you're doing, and even take control of your computer remotly, so, as many said, take the floating F, or take the floating A and risk big sticks and the boot. ;)
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Re: Bet with a teacher
« Reply #17 on: September 29, 2009, 10:08:04 PM »
There are many ways past a proxy, but that depends on how well the proxy and firewall are configured.  If they allow other protocols out like IM, FTP, SSH or whatever, you can set up a proxy of your own on one of those ports.  If that avenue is closed, you can setup a web server to proxy connections for you.  You'll need a computer connected to the Internet that you can install some software on.  And you want a packet logger so you can scan it to see what they let out past the school's firewall.

And slipping past proxies isn't illegal, but it may violate an acceptable use policy.

If you really want to blow his mind, while it isn't quite interactive, if he can send email, you could set up a mail server, email a URL to it, have an script pull down the page, zip it up and send it back.  Open up the attachment and TA-DA!  One blocked web page.

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Re: Bet with a teacher
« Reply #18 on: September 29, 2009, 10:54:02 PM »
I'm honestly not worried about a big stick coming after me. That big stick doesn't exist here, lol, as this same teacher has gotten through the proxy before with the help of a student, but the firewall has been upgraded over the summer as the rest of the school got renovated. I'll give all of these methods a 'go', if anyone really does come down on me, I am doing this on the request of a department head for educational purposes. The teacher is a good guy, in fact, the floating A/ floating F are meaningless, as the way he grades, a single A or a single F with not make or break my grade, and again, he is a nice guy, so he will probably put the F on a meaningless assignment so it doesn't really hurt me. This isn't so much a bet for gain as a matter of boredom/curiosity.

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Re: Bet with a teacher
« Reply #19 on: September 29, 2009, 10:56:38 PM »
That's a really dumb thing to bet.  Not only do you display poor judgement but you're going to post on a public board asking for help to do something you're not supposed to do?  I'll be amazed if you survive two semesters at any military academy.  Amazed.

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Re: Bet with a teacher
« Reply #20 on: September 29, 2009, 11:35:43 PM »
How come none of you have any thing to say about the TEACHER  making the bet....?

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« Reply #21 on: September 29, 2009, 11:40:32 PM »
How come none of you have any thing to say about the TEACHER  making the bet....?

Because, being a tech student, I know what a pain in the everything networking security is on non-techie teachers.
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Re: Bet with a teacher
« Reply #22 on: September 29, 2009, 11:58:22 PM »
Couple of ways to do it...

One way is to set up an anonymizing web proxy on your home computer, then browse to your home computer from school.  That way your school computer only connects to your home computer, while your home computer goes to the forbidden sites and simply passes the info back to you along the permitted connection.

There are other anonymizing proxy servers out there, but many commercially available proxy servers like the one your school is using will automatically block known third party proxy servers.  That's why using one on your home computer has a better chance of success.

There are risks of course...  If you don't have your home computer secured well enough and install a proxy server, you might end up having your home computer attacked and taken over by hackers.  So you'd get an A at the cost of your home computer and any other computers set up at home.  That would sort of suck eh?

Another way that is more secure is to set up a secure peer to peer tunnel, again using an "allowed" port through your school proxy, to a computer somewhere on the internet (you could use your home computer).  This would essentially be a VPN hookup from your school computer to your home.  You pretty much log in to your home computer from school, and from then on it's the same as if you were using your home computer.  Two problems with this...  First, you might need to install some software on the school computer and that is usually a huge no-no (punishable by at the very least loss of computer privledges, possibly suspension, possibly even criminal charges).  Second, whoever set up the proxy might be really talented and may have set it up to detect VPN and other tunneling efforts.

If you don't know what "tunneling" is, you lack some of the basic knowledge you need to pull off what you said you can do.  In that case, you need to give up or try harder.  Meaning you need to actually learn the nuts and bolts of networking, all of which you can easily do from home using freely available textbooks and how-to documents.  But you'll need to put some effort into it.
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Re: Bet with a teacher
« Reply #23 on: September 30, 2009, 12:01:51 AM »
And if you doubt I know what I'm talking about, the first thing I ever did when I graduated from the USAF academy was set up an IP tunnel through telnet from my apartment to the comp sci computer lab on base.  From that lab, I had a direct line to both a very high speed internet backbone serving the school, and I was also inside the NIPR net (military side of the internet).  What I did wasn't a big deal back then (my teachers helped out by giving me the phone number to the dial-in modem and the IP addresses of the firewalls I needed to pass through) but doing the same thing now would probably result in me being fined a year's pay, reduction in rank, and jail time.

Been there, done that, gave it up when non-hostile hacking of a cooperative/friendly network became a felony.
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Re: Bet with a teacher
« Reply #24 on: September 30, 2009, 01:58:30 AM »
And if you doubt I know what I'm talking about, the first thing I ever did when I graduated from the USAF academy was set up an IP tunnel through telnet from my apartment to the comp sci computer lab on base.  From that lab, I had a direct line to both a very high speed internet backbone serving the school, and I was also inside the NIPR net (military side of the internet).  What I did wasn't a big deal back then (my teachers helped out by giving me the phone number to the dial-in modem and the IP addresses of the firewalls I needed to pass through) but doing the same thing now would probably result in me being fined a year's pay, reduction in rank, and jail time.

Been there, done that, gave it up when non-hostile hacking of a cooperative/friendly network became a felony.


ROFL. Actually, at my school, I could not imagine who would take offense to any friendly action. I got the WiFi password from a teacher, access to the printer network from my teachers... so far as I have seen everyone at the school hates the way the network has been set up and they are all trying to find ways around stuff. The moaning really hit high-gear when Obama's address to students was only posted on Youtube, which no schools can access...

Well, I get what you said in the post, and while I don't mind risking my desktop (I never use it since my new laptop outperforms it) I dont want to risk any other computers in my house being hit. But I will try to find some exact step-by-step info to give to him so he can risk his own gear, lol.

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Re: Bet with a teacher
« Reply #25 on: September 30, 2009, 02:20:03 AM »
How come none of you have any thing to say about the TEACHER  making the bet....?



I did think about it, the fact that you could use that against him if forced to. Hardly a profesional thing to do. But then i thought serenity should just take the F so karma does not owe him one.
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Re: Bet with a teacher
« Reply #26 on: September 30, 2009, 05:03:12 AM »
Just blame your teacher.

My friend hacked into the Howard County Community College proxie and server.
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Re: Bet with a teacher
« Reply #27 on: September 30, 2009, 08:44:20 AM »
ROFL. Actually, at my school, I could not imagine who would take offense to any friendly action. I got the WiFi password from a teacher, access to the printer network from my teachers..

That's why we don't give our teachers the wifi password... or the deepfreeze password... or pretty much any password at all, cause then the word gets out then we have to go and reconfigure every computer in the district (about 2500 now), which, for a small tech group (about 20-30 techs, closer to 20), is a real pain in the butt...

Anywho, I suggest the tunneling method, tough to block, possible, but tough, you could try using the remote access option as well. ;)
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Re: Bet with a teacher
« Reply #28 on: September 30, 2009, 08:49:36 AM »
I say break through and give a big middle finger to the IT.   :t

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« Reply #29 on: September 30, 2009, 02:00:10 PM »
And if you doubt I know what I'm talking about, the first thing I ever did when I graduated from the USAF academy was set up an IP tunnel through telnet from my apartment to the comp sci computer lab on base.  From that lab, I had a direct line to both a very high speed internet backbone serving the school, and I was also inside the NIPR net (military side of the internet).  What I did wasn't a big deal back then (my teachers helped out by giving me the phone number to the dial-in modem and the IP addresses of the firewalls I needed to pass through) but doing the same thing now would probably result in me being fined a year's pay, reduction in rank, and jail time.

Been there, done that, gave it up when non-hostile hacking of a cooperative/friendly network became a felony.


Meh, the USAF use crap firewalls then. There is so much fail in this thread, every single method mentioned I can detect and prevent with a <$1000 firewall. Try em, watch your internet access at work/school disappear.