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Offline AWwrgwy

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Re: New PT Boat Model Too much Firepower?
« Reply #45 on: October 09, 2009, 04:00:53 PM »
That's exactly what I'm saying....... Not many PT's qualified as ace's in WWII I'm sure.......

And, conversely, not many PT's faced aircraft at all.  I have a pic In a book of a PT with an aerial torpedo stuck in it's bow.  Generally speaking, PT's were able to maneuver enough to make them difficult targets and attacking aircraft were wary about their defensive guns.


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Re: New PT Boat Model Too much Firepower?
« Reply #46 on: October 09, 2009, 09:25:46 PM »
Hopefully Ack-Ack is lying, because bullets and bombs aren't supposed to splash their damage when they hit the water...a bug, perhaps.

Actually, bombs do cause spalsh damage when hitting in water in real life. I belive that even near misses from 500lb bombs could cause carriers to get leaks and pop seams....
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Re: New PT Boat Model Too much Firepower?
« Reply #47 on: October 09, 2009, 11:12:40 PM »
Wasn't talking about real life.

Also, those near misses would have to be almost touching the hull when they went off. See also depth charges.
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Re: New PT Boat Model Too much Firepower?
« Reply #48 on: October 09, 2009, 11:18:45 PM »
I've heard they could be as much as 100ft away to cause leaks. A single stick of TNT in the water creates enough preasure, along with the water transfering the shockwaves into your body, to kill a human, now imagine 1000lbs of TNT going off.....
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Re: New PT Boat Model Too much Firepower?
« Reply #49 on: October 09, 2009, 11:23:17 PM »
A 1000lb bomb carries less than 500lbs of explosives, and it isn't TNT. I believe it was Torpex, but that's coming from nowhere. Most often, 500lb or 250lb bombs were used.
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Re: New PT Boat Model Too much Firepower?
« Reply #50 on: October 10, 2009, 09:48:32 AM »
That's exactly what I'm saying....... Not many PT's qualified as ace's in WWII I'm sure.......

Generally Pts, in the war, avoided daylight and certainly other PTs and/or aircraft. If I remember right the German navy forbid their own motor boats from engaging other PTs. To them their S Boats were important assets to be used to sink large enemy combat ships, or, enemy freighters. Generally, in all navies, PT boats avoided daylight like Dracula. And night isn't something we have in the game so while fun I dont think the PT will ever achieve its potential in game play. I like to use them as additional flak for our CVs. Or as escorts for LVTs. Or, of course, to fling torpedoes at enemy ships.

I have found that it isn't worth it to conserve ammo against fighter cons. I stay pretty finger heavy with a few squirts at 2k to get my lead and by 1k to 1.5k I want to be on the plane with all guns firing. Best of all I like having a few PTs with me.

It was the Brits who mastered the art of near missing ships on purpose with rockets. I forget the distance they preferred to miss by but it was a deadly tactic against submarines and commercial shipping. Sinking PTs by near misses of rockets and/or big cannon is very accurate modeling.
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Re: New PT Boat Model Too much Firepower?
« Reply #51 on: October 10, 2009, 11:13:13 AM »
I would like to see a night FSO with PT boats.

To bad gamma would probably be used....

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Re: New PT Boat Model Too much Firepower?
« Reply #52 on: October 10, 2009, 11:24:40 AM »
Really? a 1000lb bomb has like 500lbs of metal and crap along with the explosives? Well whatever, 500lbs is still a lot. Probably would have to be like 50 or 30 ft away then. And not only the shock, but water may cause bombs to burst close to the surface, allowing fragmets to do damage.
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Re: New PT Boat Model Too much Firepower?
« Reply #53 on: October 10, 2009, 11:28:55 AM »
Depth charges have been known to cause lethal damage to submerged vessels out past 100 yards.....

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Re: New PT Boat Model Too much Firepower?
« Reply #54 on: October 10, 2009, 11:37:29 AM »
OK, so point is shells and boms SHOULD cause splash damage. Closing of that one for us strip, and Rich....
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