Author Topic: P47M, thanks HTC  (Read 5657 times)

Offline AirFlyer

  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1210
Re: P47M, thanks HTC
« Reply #75 on: October 08, 2009, 10:28:11 PM »
Still dreaming of my A6M getting re-done some day Gixer, we just have to be patient. :salute

The new P47 skin looks nice though, different for a USAAF plane.
« Last Edit: October 08, 2009, 10:30:11 PM by AirFlyer »
Tours: Airflyer to 69 - 77 | Dustin57 92 - 100 | Spinnich 100 - ?
"You'll always get exactly what you deserve." Neil

Offline Gixer

  • Persona Non Grata
  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3189
Re: P47M, thanks HTC
« Reply #76 on: October 08, 2009, 10:38:00 PM »
The if in your argument is akin to saying if my aunt had nuts she'd be my uncle.  

Was never an argument, was just making the point of completing updates of the existing AH1 fleet over new planes. 


<S>...-Gixer



Offline Karnak

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 23048
Re: P47M, thanks HTC
« Reply #77 on: October 08, 2009, 10:41:22 PM »
Was never an argument, was just making the point of completing updates of the existing AH1 fleet over new planes. 


<S>...-Gixer



His point was that updated the planes requires new assets to be made, e.g. the new models.  The P-47M has the exact same model as the P-47D-40, so there wasn't any work needed.  Greebo made the skin on his own time and Pyro had the flight model data.  All the AH1 aircraft require new 3D models and adding the P-47M does not delay any work on them.
Petals floating by,
      Drift through my woman's hand,
             As she remembers me-

Offline Pyro

  • Administrator
  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 4020
      • http://www.hitechcreations.com
Re: P47M, thanks HTC
« Reply #78 on: October 08, 2009, 10:56:58 PM »
Ok, I changed "argument" to "point".  I wasn't trying to present "argument" as more negative than "point" but that doesn't change the shape of the situation.

<edit> Karnak's take is 100% correct.
« Last Edit: October 08, 2009, 11:05:33 PM by Pyro »

Offline Guppy35

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 20387
Re: P47M, thanks HTC
« Reply #79 on: October 08, 2009, 11:08:28 PM »
Was never an argument, was just making the point of completing updates of the existing AH1 fleet over new planes. 


<S>...-Gixer


But you reinforce the point that no matter what HTC does, there will be someone to complain about it :)


Dan/CorkyJr
8th FS "Headhunters

Offline Dustoff2

  • Zinc Member
  • *
  • Posts: 98
Re: P47M, thanks HTC
« Reply #80 on: October 08, 2009, 11:18:18 PM »
somebody explain to me the fuel load out.

when I select 100%, I have full fuel.
When I select 75%, I also have full fuel. the aux tank is full and so is the main.

shouldn't it be like the d40 and 75% be full main, and just some fuel in the aux?

 :salute
AKDust
Arabian Knights

Offline Stoney

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3482
Re: P47M, thanks HTC
« Reply #81 on: October 08, 2009, 11:18:29 PM »
But you reinforce the point that no matter what HTC does, there will be someone to complain about it

 :rofl
"Can we be incorrect at times, absolutely, but I do believe 15 years of experience does deserve a little more credence and respect than you have given from your very first post."

HiTech

Offline cactuskooler

  • Skinner Team
  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2093
Re: P47M, thanks HTC
« Reply #82 on: October 09, 2009, 12:04:51 AM »
Not a huge deal, but the texture for the mixture lever is on the prop lever and vise versa for all the P-47s.

cactus
80th FS "Headhunters"

Noseart

Offline Westy

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2871
Re: P47M, thanks HTC
« Reply #83 on: October 09, 2009, 09:14:34 AM »
heheheh. I like how you put that Widewing :)

Offline Rebel

  • Nickel Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 734
Re: P47M, thanks HTC
« Reply #84 on: October 09, 2009, 11:35:07 AM »
WOOOOOOO F***IN' HOOOOOOOOOO!  :D :O :lol :aok
"You rebel scum"

Offline Ack-Ack

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 25260
      • FlameWarriors
Re: P47M, thanks HTC
« Reply #85 on: October 09, 2009, 01:40:37 PM »
While nice to see a new plane. I'd much rather see HT finish off the exisiting AH1 plane set to AH2 levels first.

Just how many Jug,P38,Spit and 109 vesions do you need?     :rolleyes:



<S>...-Gixer


My silly little friend living, one cannot have too many P-38s.


ack-ack
"If Jesus came back as an airplane, he would be a P-38." - WW2 P-38 pilot
Elite Top Aces +1 Mexican Official Squadron Song

Offline Saxman

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 9155
Re: P47M, thanks HTC
« Reply #86 on: October 09, 2009, 01:45:14 PM »
My silly little friend living, one cannot have too many P-38s.


ack-ack

Yeah, we need more targets.

:D
Ron White says you can't fix stupid. I beg to differ. Stupid will usually sort itself out, it's just a matter of making sure you're not close enough to become collateral damage.

Offline Anaxogoras

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 7072
Re: P47M, thanks HTC
« Reply #87 on: October 09, 2009, 01:45:52 PM »
True, everyone says we need more medium bombers.  More P-38s!
gavagai
334th FS


RPS for Aces High!

Offline ink

  • Persona Non Grata
  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 11274
Re: P47M, thanks HTC
« Reply #88 on: October 09, 2009, 02:25:40 PM »
found me a new ride :aok :aok

thanx HTC for a nice 40th b-day present  :D

Offline BnZs

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 4207
Re: P47M, thanks HTC
« Reply #89 on: October 09, 2009, 02:52:08 PM »
I want to say THANK GOD, and I mean THANK GOD the HTC team does not allow any ords to be attached to this fighter, so that it won't become another suicide porking/hangar banging machine and so the various board members who look upon such gross misuses of fighter aircraft with anything other than sad pity won't call for this good but non-super fighter to be perked.

Like everyone said, it is still a Jug. It is only really a Late-War plane for five minutes. Judicious use of WEP will still be vital to have it available when you REALLY need it.


Nightmare ? Hardly. I posted numbers, verifiable. Heck, you even turned around a few days later and quoted similar numbers in another thread.

I've shown how the 47N performs leaps and bounds beyond what folks pretend it does based off the charts, because the charts use full fuel. I've also shown how the 47N in-game isn't far off from the 47M specs. I've flown the 47N a lot in-game, heavy and light, and 99% of the playerbase talks down to it because they look at a misleading line on a climb chart and call it "slow"....

47M not needed IMO, but will give some nice skin options if nothing else.

Krusty, I tested the climb rates offline. 25% fuel for both,which yielded about 30 minutes  on the E6B for both, 8 guns, 267rpgs. Hit the runway, start the engine, WEP and climb. The initial climb rate of the N on the E6B was around 3600fpm. The initial climb rate of the M was around 3900fpm. In 5 minutes of WEP climbing, the N got to 15.5K. The M got to 18.5K on a WEP climb of the same duration. The M also has enough of a top speed advantage over the N on MIL to make a difference, and matches the D-11, formerly the MIL speed king amongst Jugs. The M outclimbs the D-40 on MIL, which was the climb rate champion amongst jugs up until now. It for all intents and purposes out-climbs a P-51D on WEP. There is not getting around the fact that this is a worthwhile upgrade to the Jug lineup.
"Crikey, sir. I'm looking forward to today. Up diddly up, down diddly down, whoops, poop, twiddly dee - decent scrap with the fiendish Red Baron - bit of a jolly old crash landing behind enemy lines - capture, torture, escape, and then back home in time for tea and medals."