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Re: Part of FW Condor found N of Iceland.
« Reply #15 on: October 27, 2009, 10:50:42 PM »
CC, however Angus is asking about a specific shoot-down in 1943. Ack-Ack then connects that to a 1942 kill in two separate posts. So it's not a typo. It's an error. No big deal; just wanted it clarified that the Army Air Force didn't sit on their collective tulips for over a year in the ETO before scoring a kill.

Gee...not only are you an arse but you're also a mind reader now?  It was just a simple typo...nothing more, nothing less.


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Re: Part of FW Condor found N of Iceland.
« Reply #16 on: October 27, 2009, 10:55:10 PM »
CC, however Angus is asking about a specific shoot-down in 1943. Ack-Ack then connects that to a 1942 kill in two separate posts. So it's not a typo. It's an error. No big deal; just wanted it clarified that the Army Air Force didn't sit on their collective tulips for over a year in the ETO before scoring a kill.

No, Ack was using that as a possibility to the "Historical Shoot down being the one Angus' mother might have witnessed".   I think most of us realized that similarity, you just went off on a tangent.
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Re: Part of FW Condor found N of Iceland.
« Reply #17 on: October 27, 2009, 11:00:23 PM »
No. He tried to "correct" the names of the US pilots, clearly referring to the original post.

Angus asked about a specific shoot-down in 1943. How can you connect that to a 1942 event, write 1943 and call it a typo? Did you mean to write 1942 in both your posts? If so, why were you writing about a 1942 event and even "correcting" the original author on "he's got the names incorrect for the US pilots" when the original author was writing about a 1943 event? Sorry for being pedantic, but that's not a typo.

If it was the shoot down that occured on August 14, 1943, he's got the names incorrect for the US pilots.  2nd Lt. Elza Shahan of the 27th Fighter Squadron flying a P-38F and Joseph Shaffer of the 33rd Squadron flying a either a P-40C or a P-39 were credited for shooting down a Condor on that date over Iceland.

If that is indeed the wreck of that shoot down, it is a very special find.  It was the first Luftwaffe kill for the US and Shahan is credited for scoring the first kill for the P-38 in the ETO.


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Re: Part of FW Condor found N of Iceland.
« Reply #18 on: October 27, 2009, 11:08:55 PM »
No. He tried to "correct" the names of the US pilots, clearly referring to the original post.

Angus asked about a specific shoot-down in 1943. How can you connect that to a 1942 event, write 1943 and call it a typo? Did you mean to write 1942 in both your posts? If so, why were you writing about a 1942 event and even "correcting" the original author on "he's got the names incorrect for the US pilots" when the original author was writing about a 1943 event? Sorry for being pedantic, but that's not a typo.

Enough already and stop hijacking this thread.   Just let it go.
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Re: Part of FW Condor found N of Iceland.
« Reply #19 on: October 27, 2009, 11:12:40 PM »
Not a hijack. I was clarifying that the event Ack-Ack wrote about was not the same as the event the original poster asked about. It was not just a typo, it was a completely different event that had nothing to do with Angus' Condor. Clearly on topic.
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Re: Part of FW Condor found N of Iceland.
« Reply #20 on: October 28, 2009, 01:37:01 AM »
Not a hijack. I was clarifying that the event Ack-Ack wrote about was not the same as the event the original poster asked about. It was not just a typo, it was a completely different event that had nothing to do with Angus' Condor. Clearly on topic.

It was easy to make a typo, I hit 3 instead of 2.  Satifisfied ass?


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Re: Part of FW Condor found N of Iceland.
« Reply #21 on: October 28, 2009, 03:40:05 AM »
If you meant to write 1942 why did you even bring it up when Angus asked about a 1943 event? Why did you try to correct the names of the pilots if you knew the two events were unrelated?

Short answer: No, I'm not satisfied.
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Re: Part of FW Condor found N of Iceland.
« Reply #22 on: October 28, 2009, 05:28:14 AM »
This Condor was shot down over sea, quite far north, around the polar circle. East of "Grimsey". Try Google earth.
There was another one shot down over land, or just crashing. I'll ask today. (forgot this morning)
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Re: Part of FW Condor found N of Iceland.
« Reply #23 on: October 28, 2009, 08:39:12 AM »
Ack, meet DieHard.  DieHard, meet Ack.

You two will get along well.

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Re: Part of FW Condor found N of Iceland.
« Reply #24 on: October 29, 2009, 04:33:37 PM »
Ack, meet DieHard.  DieHard, meet Ack.

You two will get along well.

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You're off my Christmas card mailing list you bastard!

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Re: Part of FW Condor found N of Iceland.
« Reply #25 on: October 30, 2009, 09:06:56 AM »
If a Die Hard meets serious Ack-Ack, he will Die...hard  :t
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