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Offline Belial

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Re: Might be fired...
« Reply #15 on: October 15, 2009, 07:37:08 PM »
Your only hope is too call the girl and invite her to your pad, where you get her so high she forgets all about it.  Oh wait thats what you should do it's only a bank job.  Most tellers only make 10-20$ an hour, I'm sure you can do better anyway.  If you really want another bank job just don't list them as a reference.  I've gotten away with not listing just because I couldnt remember my previous employers info.


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Offline Anodizer

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Re: Might be fired...
« Reply #16 on: October 15, 2009, 08:35:40 PM »
Worked at National City Banks Corporate Ops center for a number of years....  I'll never work in banking(or any other corporation)again....  Nothing but corporate tools looking to get ahead on the backs of others..  You're boss sounds like she may be one of them....  I wouldn't sweat it....  Teller jobs are a dime a dozen.. 
If you want to make more money, try getting into operations....  However again, be wary of the corporate tools..



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Offline eagl

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Re: Might be fired...
« Reply #17 on: October 15, 2009, 08:35:45 PM »
Hell, you're going to get fired anyhow, so the day after you get fired take out a full-page ad in a newspaper explaining the story.  Leave out her name, but give her Mom's name...  You don't have any privacy obligation to her Mom do you? :)

More seriously, the advice hidden up in the thread might be good...  If you take a "rehab" plan to your boss, you might survive.  Celebrities survive things worse than this all the time by simply crying a bit on tv and going to therapy, so maybe taking a company-sponsored course or something will be enough.
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Re: Might be fired...
« Reply #18 on: October 15, 2009, 08:41:43 PM »
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Offline Grayeagle

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Re: Might be fired...
« Reply #19 on: October 15, 2009, 09:13:49 PM »
On the 'resign' thing: if you resign you will not qualify for unemployment insurance.
If they ask for your resignation, tell them to fire you.
Companies and bean counters love it when someone resigns .. that releases them from any and all obligations.

If any HR interview type asks, be entirely up front about what happened.

There are better jobs all around, it just takes awhile to find a good one.
Craigs list, Inet, word of mouth, networking with friends ..its all good.

..and yes.. if a manager/supervisor said they couldnt back me up, I'd be lookin for another job *that* day.
'Oh by the way, I am takin the afternoon off to explore my options, later' .. works well.

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Offline Flipperk

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Re: Might be fired...
« Reply #20 on: October 15, 2009, 09:48:59 PM »
I called up my previous employer (left on GREAT terms) and he said he would love to have me back if i really needed the job.

So I have fall back job in place just in case I get the walk of fame.

Will stick around as long as I can, I for some reason believe she willl not get ahold of corporate on the matter.  If someone can't complete one sentence without saying "Like" and "Ok" 57 times I doubt they have the brain power to talk to the right people for this.

Side note, the daughter is 19 years old....


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Re: Might be fired...
« Reply #21 on: October 16, 2009, 12:24:23 AM »
On the 'resign' thing: if you resign you will not qualify for unemployment insurance.
If they ask for your resignation, tell them to fire you.
Companies and bean counters love it when someone resigns .. that releases them from any and all obligations.

It would be a long uphill battle to fight for unemployment benefits in this situation.  The bank is on solid grounds to terminate employment and coin-toss or worse odds of getting paid (I don't know the laws of his state well enough to say one way or the other) aren't exactly ideal. 

-Someone who fought a 6 month battle for UE benefits that turned out successful but doesn't want to do it again.

Offline Flipperk

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Re: Might be fired...
« Reply #22 on: October 16, 2009, 10:17:14 AM »
I wouldn't worry about future employment.  EEOC regs allow people to ask if you worked there, when, and would they re-hire you.  They of course will say they won't re-hire you but the potential employer cannot ask why.  If they do ask why and that question is answered, you may feel free to hire any contingency attorney and sue them into next week.  My suggestion, as VP of sales and an interviewer of sales folks, is to do the following:

1) Update your resume as normal
2) When asked why you were at your last position for such a short period, answer honestly that you believed you were dealing with a concerned mother...any reasonable person would want to help a concerned mother....the reasonable man test is passed.  DO NOT LIE about it.

They will KNOW that you understand the confidentiality issues at this point...you got fired for it so that isn't going to be an issue in the future.

This probably worries them from a identity theft perspective as well...the daughter is an idiot for having her bank account closed for overdraft excesses....if she is that broke, she will sue the bank anyway.  That is a crappy lawyer's nirvana...taking that position, you may want to tell your boss that..."we are probably going to be sued anyway...why not put me through additional training, work up an new confidentiality agreement to sign and that will be the actions that the judge sees that you have taken".  It probably won't work but its infinitely less expensive than interviewing, hiring, and training a new employee.

You will be fine sir....it might not hurt to resign either...do it now and write a resignation letter that you can show to your next employer.  That way you were NOT fired.  If they ask why you resigned, be honest...you were manipulated by a customer with malicious intent and didn't want to be a casualty of the bank's lack of understanding the situation.

In truth, you didn't actually violate your contract if I am reading this correctly.  Technically, the daughter was not a customer of the bank...the bank closed her account.  What is the definition of a "customer"...does your contract say "past and current customer's" or just customer.  Perhaps that technicality will allow your supervisor to take PAUSE before letting you go...after all, depending upon the language in the contract, the bank might be getting sued by the daughter AND by you for an unjustified release.  Now, if you live in a right-to-work state like Texas, employers can fire you at will, and without reason.  

Good luck to you,

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I wish you were right about this one, but sorry to say no this is not correct.

Customers would include all current and past customers, just because an account is closed does not mean it goes away. All accounts opened or closed is still stored in the database with all of their information still on it for as long as the bank is in buisness.



Still no call from the manager, the bank has been opened for 3 hours now, I go in in 2 hours.

Either HR is slow with processing this, or the girl never called...
« Last Edit: October 16, 2009, 10:19:09 AM by Flipperk »
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Re: Might be fired...
« Reply #23 on: October 16, 2009, 10:28:01 AM »
emotional distress is harm enough to sue........ happens successfully everyday

when she opened the account at the bank they were required by law to maintain her confidentiality, (with some exceptions such as debt collection etc)

by breaking this agreement they caused her emotional distress..... as evidenced by her contacting the bank upset

obviously her mother questioned her on the debts and they had an argument which incited her enough to call the bank

as for any damages its highly unlikely she would be compensated in any meaningful amount......... the most likely scenario will be that the bank will writeoff the amount she is overdrawn and the whole thing will go away

edit: and you will be fired no matter what happens

Sue the meddling mommy not the bank.
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Offline Belial

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Re: Might be fired...
« Reply #24 on: October 16, 2009, 10:39:11 AM »
Working in a bank is like being a male nurse, tell them you want your pride more than their crappy paying job.

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Re: Might be fired...
« Reply #25 on: October 16, 2009, 10:48:46 AM »
I called up my previous employer (left on GREAT terms) and he said he would love to have me back if i really needed the job.

So I have fall back job in place just in case I get the walk of fame.

Will stick around as long as I can, I for some reason believe she willl not get ahold of corporate on the matter.  If someone can't complete one sentence without saying "Like" and "Ok" 57 times I doubt they have the brain power to talk to the right people for this.

Side note, the daughter is 19 years old....



brat



ok like seriously this is like the second time youve like given out um like my information ok and like your seriously going to regret the doing this for like the second time...ok.... seriously :bolt:
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Re: Might be fired...
« Reply #26 on: October 16, 2009, 11:14:25 AM »
ok like seriously this is like the second time youve like given out um like my information ok and like your seriously going to regret the doing this for like the second time...ok.... seriously :bolt:



Thats exactly how she sounded  :lol


and im not giving any personal information out here...there are millions of 19 year females in the US...good luck finding this one :)
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Re: Might be fired...
« Reply #27 on: October 16, 2009, 11:16:37 AM »


Thats exactly how she sounded  :lol


and im not giving any personal information out here...there are millions of 19 year females in the US...good luck finding this one :)

If we find her, should we hit it?
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Re: Might be fired...
« Reply #28 on: October 16, 2009, 11:17:48 AM »
If we find her, should we hit it?



I would  :aok
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Re: Might be fired...
« Reply #29 on: October 16, 2009, 11:26:20 AM »
should we hit it?

Everything in life and the universe, all boils down to this simple question...

Good luck bro.  If you were my employee, I'd keep you on board, mostly because you just got a huge amount of training...
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