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Dyno/Drag Racing Gossip
« on: October 24, 2009, 06:03:44 PM »
Went to the chassis dyno for the first time....DynoJet Inertial Chassis Dyno
 
RPM    HP    TQ     A/F
5900 429.5 382.3 4.91
6000 452.6 396.2 4.89
6100 482.1 415.1 5.09
6200 488.1 413.5 5.28
6300 491.8 410.0 5.30
6400 491.4 403.3 5.38
6500 488.6 394.8 5.28
6600 487.1 387.7 5.26
6700 481.2 377.2 5.37
6800 479.3 370.2 5.29
6900 482.0 366.9 5.17
7000 481.5 361.3 5.19
7100 479.6 354.8 5.04
7200 477.6 348.4 5.04
7300 474.8 341.6 5.09

Run after this was 501 with a timing change....

First thing I notice is the converter stalls at 6100, which is bit loose in my book. The fuel mixture at low and high rpm looks a bit fat but I am not sure how to correct that. This is the second of three runs, third lost fuel pressure and laid over just after peak HP. Changed the timing from 36 to 33 and gained roughly 10 horsepower throughout the rpm range. I am extremely curious why the Hp curve is so flat and has two peaks. Numbers look about 100 hp low when compared to weight vs E.T. formulas...those big slicks and loose converter really eat up Hp!

Ran two runs in the Thursday TestnTune and was really happpy....

Rt    .011      .010
60'    1.217    1.218
330'   3.526    3.528
660'   5.472    5.475
MPH  125.73   125.82

Ready to go bracket racing!

Strip

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Re: Dyno/Drag Racing Gossip
« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2009, 06:52:01 PM »
can you post the actual dyno chart? What chassis is this in? I am assuming with the low HP and very fast 1/8th mile times it must be a rail car.

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Re: Dyno/Drag Racing Gossip
« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2009, 07:54:52 PM »
Scanner is fubared for some reason.....will try to get it up tomorrow if I can get it figured out, gonna catch some shuteye first.

Yea its not world setting, chassis is a 96' Carpenter with a 406 SBC and 215" wheel base.

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Re: Dyno/Drag Racing Gossip
« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2009, 08:08:25 PM »
Went to the chassis dyno for the first time....DynoJet Inertial Chassis Dyno
 
RPM    HP    TQ     A/F
5900 429.5 382.3 4.91
6000 452.6 396.2 4.89
6100 482.1 415.1 5.09
6200 488.1 413.5 5.28
6300 491.8 410.0 5.30
6400 491.4 403.3 5.38
6500 488.6 394.8 5.28
6600 487.1 387.7 5.26
6700 481.2 377.2 5.37
6800 479.3 370.2 5.29
6900 482.0 366.9 5.17
7000 481.5 361.3 5.19
7100 479.6 354.8 5.04
7200 477.6 348.4 5.04
7300 474.8 341.6 5.09

Run after this was 501 with a timing change....

First thing I notice is the converter stalls at 6100, which is bit loose in my book. The fuel mixture at low and high rpm looks a bit fat but I am not sure how to correct that. This is the second of three runs, third lost fuel pressure and laid over just after peak HP. Changed the timing from 36 to 33 and gained roughly 10 horsepower throughout the rpm range. I am extremely curious why the Hp curve is so flat and has two peaks. Numbers look about 100 hp low when compared to weight vs E.T. formulas...those big slicks and loose converter really eat up Hp!

Ran two runs in the Thursday TestnTune and was really happpy....

Rt    .011      .010
60'    1.217    1.218
330'   3.526    3.528
660'   5.472    5.475
MPH  125.73   125.82

Ready to go bracket racing!

Strip

i don't understand what you mean by 2 peaks? are you refering to why the engine stays at 491 hp at 6300 and 6400 rpm?

 if so, that is most probably where the hp goes "over the top" . like if you pictured it in your mind, compare the curve to the top of a cam lobe. it just happened to stay level at that rpm.

 i don't think there is much way to correct the fat mixture at lower rpm....partly because it may be reading that from the "squirt" when you first throttle it.......and partly because if you lean it out at lower rpm, i;m not sure you could keep it fat enough as she winds up.
 if you had to choose....too fat or too lean, which would you take? :D

 as for timing, i'm surprised a chevy gained that much with such a low total timing.
 like i mentioned in the other thread, we were running our camaro at 31, turning anywhere from 10.1 to 10.3's depending on the weather. we bumped it to 35 degrees, and pretty much instantly dropped into the 9.90's.

 you mentioned thre converter stalling at 6100? where's she normally stall? what do you launch at?
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Re: Dyno/Drag Racing Gossip
« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2009, 08:34:46 PM »
My old man said 5900 on the transbrake (4,000 chip right now) , compared to 6100 it sounds about right rolling down the rollers/track.

(I am not brave enough to take the chip out and mat it on the converter again lol)

I am talking about the secondary hp peak at 6900 of 482, this HP is FLAT, dyno sheet reads like a table top. Its got me vexed on where to shift, I think the second peak is inertial tuning kicking in as the intake hits a optimal frequency. I was pulling a peak VE 113% at maximum torque, BSFC of around .99-1.02 through out the band. The car needs alot more gear only turning around 6700 thru the finish line in 1/4 (shifting 7400).

If I was in love with a small block before I am ready to down right marry one now. Car sounded sweet at 7400 without all the wind noise and air flow changing the frequency.

Low timing is a by product of high compression, high quence (.030 piston to head clearance) good mixture ratio and good flame travel.

Strip
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