Korea War - Plane set - New Arena?

[Ack-Ack]

Thus you end up in an arena full of F-86 Sabres.

Not if you model the early Sabres, then you'll have a sky full of MiGs.

ack-ack

[stephen]

Mig-15's are like the bastard children of a combination of japanese/german aircraft...
Great climb, Great turn, and a blistering set of guns that can kill an enemy fighter with one well aim'd shot, but poor hi-speed performance. (though the mig seems to lean towards killing bombers more than fighters in its implimentation.)
I seem to recall as well that if the mig changed alt rapidly, the cockpit glass would fog up VERY quickly.

Its a question of American refinment vs Russian ruggedness.
Perhaps in a long protracted war the mig's virtues would really shine, but in a limited conflict (and with americas lead in mach1 oriented knowhow, and pilot training) The Russians really had thier foot in the bucket when trying to man thier less-technical, though excellent fighter.

Honestly within written history I cant find a biography where both sides preferd thier own version of a combat aircraft more exclusivly than in korea. Both aircraft have sufficent stength so that one might dominate the other when the THE INDIVIDUAL PILOTS SKILL is taken into account.
Pilot know-how really makes the plane in this case, and thats why I support a Korean arena.

[Karnak]

How exactly did you derive that from the post of mine that you quoted, as I was saying the exact opposite? 

You stated that you'd fly the MiG if it were American.  Did you perhaps mistype and mean you'd fly the MiG even though it isn't American?

[TheRapier]

Not to set off the B-29 bomb again but in the context of Korea, you can't really do a full Korea where you capture territory arena without it. (BTW, I'm not in favor of having the B-29 in the WWII arenas at all, just to make that clear).

A lot of the Mig-15/F-86 fights happened around escorting or trying to get to the Superforts. It was the high Superfort losses that convinced the US they needed jet bombers.

The tactical plane set would introduce a lot of late WWII planes that could potentially imbalance the MA if reintroduced there. Planes like the A-26, Pe-2, AU-1 (F4U-6), Skyraider carry lots of ords.

You could go with just an all jet arena, F-80, F-84, F-86, Meteors, and Mig-15s to keep the performance band somewhat close.

[FiLtH]

 I'd love to see it, but I'd hate to see HTC put alot of time and effort into something that is used by 20 people.

[Yeager]

I'd love to see it, but I'd hate to see HTC put alot of time and effort into something that is used by 20 people.

Considering what has already been implimented in the vast WW2 arenas HTC are on the verge of running out of meaningful things to do.  I would hate to see HTC turn into a secret weapons of the luftwaffe freak show when there are so many other things to do that deserve representation in this game.  With regards to WW1 all I can tell you is if WW2 had four fighters in one arena and NOTHING ELSE TO DO there would be 20 people in there too.  Put THAT in your pipe and smoke it  

[Kazaa]

Anyone know how well the WWI arena is doing?

[Wmaker]

Considering what has already been implimented in the vast WW2 arenas HTC are on the verge of running out of meaningful things to do.

Not even close. The war was fought between 1939-1945, not 1944-45.

[Lusche]

Anyone know how well the WWI arena is doing?

Random login screenshots from last 2 weeks:









Here some more objective numbers, based on number of kills:



(This chart is dedicated to Delirium, because he was right and I was not  )

[chewie86]

so I fell lucky now. Everytime I log into WWI arena I always find 4 / 5 guys dogfighting.

[Rino]

     Actually that is fairly accurate for most of the Great War.  The really big fights were few and far
between in everything I've read 

[USRanger]

Random login screenshots from last 2 weeks:


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Here some more objective numbers, based on number of kills:

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(This chart is dedicated to Delirium, because he was right and I was not  )

We won't ask why you have been taking screenshots of random log in screens.


Only Lusche...

[BulletVI]

PING

IDEA ALERT

HTC Can do it but as an addon that if you want it you download it. If you dont then dont download it Simple and effective way to satisfy everyone in here            

And Call it Ace's High Korea ???

[RealDeal]

The MiG15 would be just as a popular ride as the F-86 would be.  The MiG15 did outclass early F-86s in quite a few areas such as turn, climb and ceiling while the early F-86s were better in a dive.  Things improved for the Sabre when the all-moving tailplane was introduced with the E model did things start to shift in the Sabre's direction.  The F-86F-30 with the '6-3' wing things completely shift in the Sabre's direction and reversed pretty much all the advantages the MiG 15 had over the Sabre.

One thing for certain, the MiG 15 was a far more difficult plane to fly than the Sabre was, especially at low speeds with its very poor stall characteristics.


ack-ack

All true for the most part. However, the MIG still had the higher service ceiling and thrust-to-weight ratio but these numbers are just me nit-picking. Am actually suprized you of all people didnt mention the huge technilogical advantage the F-86 had over the MIG 15. The F-86 had the radar ranging gun site which was affective at nearly 2 nautical miles. Thats a pretty distinct advantage in my book.

[Ack-Ack]

All true for the most part. However, the MIG still had the higher service ceiling and thrust-to-weight ratio but these numbers are just me nit-picking.

True but when the F-86F-30 came out, the tactic of flying above the Sabres with almost virtual safety wasn't really possible anymore and MiGs found themselves being pursued up in altitudes where the older Sabres were not able to fly.

Am actually suprized you of all people didnt mention the huge technilogical advantage the F-86 had over the MIG 15. The F-86 had the radar ranging gun site which was affective at nearly 2 nautical miles. Thats a pretty distinct advantage in my book.

Some of those technological advancements in the Sabre wouldn't be a factor in the game, such as the radar ranging gunsight since those wouldn't be modeled.

ack-ack