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Fw 190G-3/R1
« on: October 30, 2009, 06:46:48 PM »
"The Fw 190 G-3: The G-3 was based on Fw 190 A-6. Like the earlier G models, all but the two wing root mounted MG 151 cannons were removed. The new V.Fw. Trg bombracks however, allowed the G-3 to simultaneously carry fuel tanks and bomb loads. Because of the range added by two additional fuel tanks, the G-3's duration increased to two hours, 30 minutes. Due to this extra flight duration, a PKS 11 autopilot was fitted. Some G-3s built in late 1943 were also fitted with the a modified 801 D-2 engine which allowed for increased low-altitude performance for short periods of time. The G-3 had two primary Rüstsätze kits. The R1 replaced the V.Fw. Trg racks with WB 151/20 cannon pods. This gave the G-3/R1 a total of six 20 mm cannons. When fitted with the R1 kit, the G model's addition armor was typically not used, and the PKS11 removed. The G-3/R1 was used in both ground strafing and anti-bomber roles. The R5 was similar to the R1, but the V.Fw. Trg racks were removed, and two ETC 50 racks per wing were added. As with the R1, the additional armor from the base G model were removed, as was the additional "


Can anyone find any info on it? I can't find any good sites for it. If it was built in sufficient numbers, saw combat, and all that, I think it would make a good addition, maybe perk it for the 6 cannons.
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Re: Fw 190G-3/R1
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2009, 07:14:15 PM »
The G-3 was the long-range ground attack version of the F-3 (which was in turn the ground attack version of the A-5, not the A-6, as quoted).

It had extra plumbing in the wings to carry 2 DTs outboard of the landing gear, and carried a single centerline bomb (a configuration also found on other "R" planes -- the Ju87R-2 was loaded the same way -- the intent was to deliver a lesser amount of bombs but with more precision and at longer ranges). The cowl guns were omitted as general weight savings to make up for the extra DT weight over the long flight, and since the ride was never intended for use as fighter/interceptor, the lighter loadout was acceptable.

I think the quote is really mistaking different histories of different models. The R1 pack was used almost exclusively by JG11 and maybe one other group. Other references citing its use are rare.

Also, the ground attack action was much more likely F-3s and later F-8s. There is some cross-over in the roles of aircraft (having A-8s in ground attack, for example) but overall I doubt G3s would have strafed much.

EDIT: The R1 gunpod was something the A5, A6, A7, A8 could all carry. It was just very seldom used. One or two squadrons over Holland/Belgium area used them against US heavy bombers, but they degraded performance, and once US escorts started extending further into Europe, they pretty much disappear in favor of internally-mounted 30mm guns instead. It would be cool to spend perks on, I agree! I'd rather see it on the A-5 though ;)
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Re: Fw 190G-3/R1
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2009, 12:51:11 PM »
OK, I didn't know that. Thanks for the info, and yes, it would be a cool perk ride. And don't we already have the A5  :headscratch:?
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Re: Fw 190G-3/R1
« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2009, 06:22:21 PM »
Yes we do. We just don't have those gunpods for it!  :devil

That's what would be cool, that weapon loadout!

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Re: Fw 190G-3/R1
« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2009, 07:04:14 PM »
Well there we agree. I'd say we get the gunpods in the next update if it was up to me. Imagine it Krusty, the spitdweebs look of horror when he sees your six cannons aimed at him...
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Re: Fw 190G-3/R1
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2009, 01:20:18 AM »
Lol, I just realized this, but the 6 20mm cannons would be equivelant to 18 .50's
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Re: Fw 190G-3/R1
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2009, 01:12:58 AM »
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Rüstsätze were field modification kits produced for the German Luftwaffe during the Second World War. They were packaged in kit form, usually direct from the aircraft manufacturer, and allowed for field modifications of various German aircraft used in World War 2, predominantly fighter bombers and night fighters. Rüstsätze kits could be fitted in the field, as opposed to Umrüst-Bausätze kits, which were typically fitted in the factory.


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Re: Fw 190G-3/R1
« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2009, 02:42:54 AM »
Nemisis do you even play AH?  :headscratch:
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Re: Fw 190G-3/R1
« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2009, 11:20:11 AM »
Yes I do challange. If HTC didn't delete my account, then it still shows as me having 44 kills in tour LW tour 116. Yeah, I know, KTD ratio sucks.
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Re: Fw 190G-3/R1
« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2009, 11:21:57 AM »

Just ignore me.

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We have tons of Ruestsaetze kits in game. In Germany there was a designation for pretty much anything that deviated from the bare-bones aircraft.

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Re: Fw 190G-3/R1
« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2009, 02:21:13 PM »
We have tons of Ruestsaetze kits in game. In Germany there was a designation for pretty much anything that deviated from the bare-bones aircraft.

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I know what you're saying.  I'm just trying to cause trouble.

Besides, I left out :
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during production runs various Rüstsätze kits were often fitted by factories in order to meet Luftwaffe demands.


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Re: Fw 190G-3/R1
« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2009, 02:29:54 PM »
wow wrong way, thats not like you... Thats strange, not usually like me to misjudge people so badly...
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