Stop Lancstuckas

[RTHolmes]

simple Lancstuka fix

[Karnak]

Again IMO anything with a bombsite and drones excluding the Ju88s should not be able to drop bombs outside the F6 mode.

No more torpedoes from Ki-67s?

[hammer]

Question for the experts: Did the pilot in these planes have a mechanism to release the bombs?

If the answer is no, then one should only be able to release from the F6 (bombardier) position. If the answer is yes, then the historical limits of the plane should be applied.

Regards,

Hammer

[Yossarian]

I'm not sure I get these release angle things...I see how they would work if you nosed down into a <0g dive after releasing your bombs, then you'd get hit by the bombs, but if you pulled up after releasing, then you wouldn't get hit.

Am I looking at this the wrong way, or are those limitations more there to protect the bomb release mechanism or something?


Please don't forget the B-25H...if it is put under the same limitations as the other planes, it wil become a bit more of a hangar queen - dive bombing is very important for it!

[Anaxogoras]

You can release bombs from a bomb-bay while inverted in AH.

[Unit791]

I know this has been wished for, but I feel the need to bring it up again. I don't mind if I am in a gv and somebody dive bombs me in a fighter, but being dive bombed by lancs is gamey, and yes I do realize this is a game. I would like for HTC to fix this. Let the flaming begin.

 

[Masherbrum]

You can release bombs from a bomb-bay while inverted in AH.

 

[100goon]

Lancstuckaing happens so much in the MW that its patethic. Because of the low numbers in there a 'strongly held' Vbase has maybe five flackers defending if you're lucky. One or two sets of lancs come in and its all over with. IMO lancs should be perked in the MW.


Again IMO anything with a bombsite and drones excluding the Ju88s should not be able to drop bombs outside the F6 mode.

the ki 67 has torps, i havent found a way to do a torp run not in f3 or f1 mode if you can, please enlighteh me

[Nemisis]

Lancstuckaing happens so much in the MW that its patethic. Because of the low numbers in there a 'strongly held' Vbase has maybe five flackers defending if you're lucky. One or two sets of lancs come in and its all over with. IMO lancs should be perked in the MW.


Again IMO anything with a bombsite and drones excluding the Ju88s should not be able to drop bombs outside the F6 mode.

I agree with yor second opinion. The lanc is just too vulnerable to fighters for it to be a perk A/C.

And your right about the flack thing too.

[SmokinLoon]

It's a fine idea, and I like it, but the key word is HOW?

There is no practical way to fix this - what can you do - prevent bombs from being dropped with a significantly negative rate of descent?  Yeah, it might work, but then you run into other problems.  What about someone bombing GVs in a B-25H?  They've got no bombsight, so suddenly you have one bomber where you need to allow bombs to be dropped whilst in a dive.  Then the same will probably go for the TBM, the SBD, IL-2, A-20 and so on.  Essentially, your 'solution' has just gotten extremely complicated.

What I'm trying to say is that preventing bombs from being released in a dive would prevent lancstukaing, but it would create other problems - a few of which I mentioned above.  Additionally, if you did take that measure, you'd be detracting from one key freedom in the game - the ability to do what you want in a plane, wherever and however you want to do it.  That is NOT something I'd like to see happen at all.

Plus, if you couldn't lancstuka, people would just find other ways to do it.  Maybe very low, but still level Lanc carpet bombing.  Think of the whines that would cause.

Auto pilot on?  Level flight only?  Bomb sight only?  Altitude minimums (bomb flight minimums)?   

[Larry]

No more torpedoes from Ki-67s?

the ki 67 has torps, i havent found a way to do a torp run not in f3 or f1 mode if you can, please enlighteh me

 


I don't remember saying anything about torpedoes being effected.

[guncrasher]

bombs shouldnt be released under neg g.  I posted this picture before, but of course the "game experts" indicated that It couldn't be done without recoding ah from scratch.   its funny how some people will argue to death to have accuracy in fighters, but mention buff dive bombing and it's ok with them.  btw look at this picture b26 releasing bombs while upside down, is funny. 

semp

[RTHolmes]

bombs should be releasable within the stated limits for the airframe, if the real aircraft could do it, the AH one should too. I dont remember anyone posting that heavies should be allowed to dive bomb.

another thing to mention is that lancstukaing gvs really isnt very effective, plenty of times I see people making a couple of passes salvo 5, getting 1 or 2 kills then landing and wonder why they bother. A20 is way more effective - potentially 8 tank kills with bombs plus a bunch of m3, jeep, m8, wirble kills with the .50 cals. 15 is my best so far without a rearm. even a heavy spit XVI will net you more kills than the average lancstuka sortie, and alot quicker too...

[Nemisis]

nothing should be allowed to dive bomb at any angle that would cause the bomb to come into contact with their plane after release. The stuka had a special bomb deflector mounted so its bomb wouldn't destroy it's propeller.

[allaire]

Bomb trapeze not a deflector.  It would swing the bomb out of the prop arc.