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Re: New History Channel Program
« Reply #90 on: November 19, 2009, 05:43:48 PM »
Most of it is stuff I haven't seen before. Eniwetok, Guadalcanal, and Tarawa had a LOT of footage I hadn't seen before. And some footage much clearer than what I had seen before. The Pacific parts are extremely interesting. The European parts are usually what I've seen before though.
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« Reply #91 on: November 19, 2009, 05:46:58 PM »
Just like you're doing now?

You're right, America had no part in World War 2, and it should show no part on an American Television Station, shown to mostly Americans, on how they had absolutely no part in World War 2 that was significant, even though they were at the tip of the spear in almost all big battles throughout the war after they came into the war. But hey, they have no right to be thanked for their part in the war, for all that they fought for.
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« Reply #92 on: November 19, 2009, 06:23:31 PM »
I find charts like this one very telling of who pulled their weight in the war:

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Funny I cant find the Norwegians on that list... wonder why that is?
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Re: New History Channel Program
« Reply #93 on: November 19, 2009, 06:24:41 PM »
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« Reply #94 on: November 19, 2009, 06:25:43 PM »
Funny I cant find the Norwegians on that list... wonder why that is?


Why should they be? What did they do?
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Re: New History Channel Program
« Reply #95 on: November 19, 2009, 06:30:27 PM »
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« Reply #96 on: November 19, 2009, 06:34:42 PM »
Why should they be? What did they do?
Well didn't they fight valiantly to defend there homeland? They must have lost huge numbers during the defense?
Well... before the surrender and all.
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« Reply #97 on: November 19, 2009, 06:41:27 PM »
I'm sure they fought valiantly and all, but you're making no sense.
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« Reply #98 on: November 19, 2009, 06:47:18 PM »
I'm sure they fought valiantly and all, but you're making no sense.
I see no Norwegians listed... they were not pulling their weight per your previous post.

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« Reply #99 on: November 19, 2009, 06:47:59 PM »
Well... Were they?
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« Reply #100 on: November 19, 2009, 06:50:14 PM »
Well... Were they?
According to you and your chart... No.
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« Reply #101 on: November 19, 2009, 06:53:09 PM »
And you disagree with that?
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Re: New History Channel Program
« Reply #102 on: November 19, 2009, 07:22:20 PM »
I think the point is that Norway's deaths wouldn't even show up on the scale of that chart.  It's like comparing the distance of your drive to work to the distance between the Earth and the Sun.

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I find charts like this one very telling of who pulled their weight in the war:

This doesn't imply anything about Norway.
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Re: New History Channel Program
« Reply #103 on: November 19, 2009, 07:27:23 PM »
Yeah... I'm really at a loss as to what Bronk is on about.
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Re: New History Channel Program
« Reply #104 on: November 19, 2009, 10:43:46 PM »
By contrast during the Battle of Kursk the Luftwaffe flew 27,221 sorties in ten days during the initial German offensive from July 5 to July 15, 1943. On July 5 alone they flew 4,475 sorties...  one day. The Soviets flew 118,000 sorties during their counterattack from August 5 to 23. 118,000 sorties in two and a half weeks... (Kursk 1943: A Statistical Analysis, by Niklas Zetterling, Anders Frankson.)

The USAAF flew 29,901 combat sorties vs Germany in July 1943. Considering the distances involved, the Germans and Russians could mount 4 or more sorties per day while the Americans could only mount one, almost 100% of the time over German held territory.

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