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Re: Never ending gas.
« Reply #45 on: October 29, 2009, 01:39:45 PM »
Ahem, theory also says that eventually the gas molecules will effuse out of the whole, and therefore no longer manifest a white vapor trail from the aircraft.
And that was all i was asking to have happen.  :D
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Re: Never ending gas.
« Reply #46 on: October 29, 2009, 01:50:51 PM »
Ahem, theory also says that eventually the gas molecules will effuse out of the whole, and therefore no longer manifest a white vapor trail from the aircraft.

Yes, but how long after the tank is no longer usable in flight? Half an hour? An hour? 2 days?

How long does the average sortie last after you lose a gas tank? 15 minutes or less (much less, if still in combat at the time!).

Probably a moot point to code in a time limit for the gas vapor if the max flight time never extends past the max gas vapor time.

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Re: Never ending gas.
« Reply #47 on: December 04, 2009, 02:52:49 PM »
Thank you HTC Guys!!!! :neener: :aok  :bolt:
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Re: Never ending gas.
« Reply #48 on: December 04, 2009, 03:12:33 PM »
Just from personal exp.  I took off in a Piper tomahawk after fueling at a local airport, and did not notice that my right fuel cap was loose, all you pilots out there, yes I know preflight, my fault.  On to the subject, the cap fell off, and left a 3 inch hole in the wing.  The Air going over the top of the wing sucked the fuel out of the wing, I know DUH.  After a 20 minute flight, there was not a drop of fuel in the wing, and I could not smell any fuel in the wing.  My dad did make me pay for the fuel cap, and for the Fuel I lost.  But I can assure you that there was nothing left to combust in the wing.  Glad that I was running on the left tank or it would have gotten real quiet on the way home.
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Re: Never ending gas.
« Reply #49 on: December 04, 2009, 03:18:00 PM »
Kinda hard to test, but does anyone know if empty fuel tanks can still catch on fire?
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Re: Never ending gas.
« Reply #50 on: December 04, 2009, 04:52:07 PM »
Kinda hard to test, but does anyone know if empty fuel tanks can still catch on fire?

Is air flammable?

If it's truely empty, the answer to that question answers it.
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Re: Never ending gas.
« Reply #51 on: December 05, 2009, 02:55:09 AM »
You'd think but it was very possible last time I checked, was curious if it got changed.
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Re: Never ending gas.
« Reply #52 on: December 05, 2009, 09:46:41 AM »
google "welding fuel tank"


people have tried and died trying to weld "empty" fuel tanks.. 


seems about as smart as putting a flame to an empty gas can :)



I have motorcycle fuel tanks welded all the time that had gas in them the just hours before.
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Re: Never ending gas.
« Reply #53 on: December 06, 2009, 12:17:52 AM »
empty fuel tanks don't explode.  fuel vapors on empty fuel tanks do.  didnt that airplane blew up after 911 due to vapors exploding in the empty fuel tanks?

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Re: Never ending gas.
« Reply #54 on: December 06, 2009, 09:16:47 AM »
I think the definition of empty is the big key here, a tank once full of fuel then drained of all fuel is a large explosion/fire risk.

A tank that has had all the fuel removed from airflow becomes increasingly harder to set fire and/or explode as the tank is purged of fuel vapor.

Both are empty by definition of the word.....

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Re: Never ending gas.
« Reply #55 on: December 06, 2009, 09:31:09 AM »
Hmm we may have written this in 2.18 and not put it in the readme, I will have to check.

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Re: Never ending gas.
« Reply #56 on: December 06, 2009, 11:20:33 AM »
Yes, but how long after the tank is no longer usable in flight? Half an hour? An hour? 2 days?
How long does the average sortie last after you lose a gas tank? 15 minutes or less (much less, if still in combat at the time!).
Probably a moot point to code in a time limit for the gas vapor if the max flight time never extends past the max gas vapor time.

Well, I see no reason as to why as we have 2x fuel burn rate, this wouldn't go away 2x as fast. Gas vapors are also, especially when weak, not a "solid white stream." Vapor can be seen, but it looks alot more like a wave (especially heat waves) then it does a puffy cloud.
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Re: Never ending gas.
« Reply #57 on: December 06, 2009, 01:46:20 PM »
Hmm we may have written this in 2.18 and not put it in the readme, I will have to check.

HiTech
You did ,i was just saying thank you in this post that i originally asked for this,and it got the convo started back up.So Ty again!
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