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Offline MjTalon

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Unit integrity & Recruitment
« on: November 16, 2009, 07:37:33 AM »
Just wanted to get some other opinions on this subject seeing as it hasn't been discussed before IIRC.

What are some of your views on a unit's integrity? Do you think it's important factor when browsing the boards or just playing the game in general or is it totally irrelevant? 

Also for C.O's: What are some procedures that you undertake when managing new recruits & applications? Just curious.

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Re: Unit integrity & Recruitment
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2009, 07:51:59 AM »
   Im not the CO but in our squad,someone picks up a stray some night, brings him home, we feed him, if he doesnt shat on the rug we keep him.

   When it comes to our squad, our relationships come first. If someone screws up, say in an FSO, he will get alot of "Heeeeeeeyyyy....wtg numbnuts", but its all in fun.

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Re: Unit integrity & Recruitment
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2009, 08:12:20 AM »
The 80th has always stayed away from openly recruiting.  If we come across a 38 driver who fits the profile and get to know them a bit, the name gets thrown out there in the squad and go from there.

We've never wanted to have a big squad.  I tend to think that squads too often add bodies just to fill out the numbers so they feel like they have a presence. 

To me it's far more important to know the guys in my squad and that they understand what we're about in terms of gameplay and how we treat the rest of the AH crowd.  Quality of people is much more important then quantity as far as I'm concerned
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Re: Unit integrity & Recruitment
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2009, 08:24:34 AM »
332nd Flying Mongrels are very much like Filth posted.

With us its not about skill at all, its all about doing your best, and getting along with the rest of the pack.
That's not to say we don't have some fairly skilled pilots. But at any given time we probably have 1/3rd that are new and mediocre at best. Or they may be fairly proficient in one plane, but totally lost when orders put us in something else.  Probably another third that is fair, and getting better. And the final third is old hands or young hot sticks who are pretty good.

I wouldn't say it has much to do with browsing the boards. Although there are more than a few of my squadmates who if they post something I sit up and pay attention.

Integrity is a tough issue, as you are always going to be in transition.
First you have to accept that every AH player goes through "stages" as they learn and master different parts of the game. So you have some guys in each stage at any given time. Plus you have new guys coming in, eager as a pup, wagging its tail, trying hard to learn. You have old vets who have been here a long time. Who are very secure in what they can do. Once a squadron reaches a certain critical mass of size, your always going to have people coming and going.

Trying to keep unit cohesion and integrity can be tough at times.

I wouldn't say its irrelevant at all, however I'm not the CO. Daddog, care to comment?

Part of what we do is an extended probationary period. To me joining a squadron is a bit like getting married.
Only to 30 some other guys. Best to catch and cure problems before they start. If they can't be fixed, well then perhaps another squad will work better for the person. Also our main squad time is FSO, so it can take a few weeks to really start to get a feel for someone. Especially when the pack is in full howl, having a good time. It can be a bit intimidating to a newer player.

I think one of the things that helps us is that Daddog has put together a pretty good set of rules to live by over the years.
http://332nd.org/aces-high/squad-rules

In any larger squad to a certain extent people come and people go.
All you can do is love the ones that are here, and miss the ones that are gone.

Last, its easy to instill a competitiveness between squadmates that IMO is not good for integrity.
A small amount of it can inspire players to work on their game. But very much starts destroying connections instead of building them. Encouraging them to work together, to accomplish a goal is much better.





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Re: Unit integrity & Recruitment
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2009, 08:52:49 AM »
Just wanted to get some other opinions on this subject seeing as it hasn't been discussed before IIRC.

What are some of your views on a unit's integrity? Do you think it's important factor when browsing the boards or just playing the game in general or is it totally irrelevant? 

Also for C.O's: What are some procedures that you undertake when managing new recruits & applications? Just curious.

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In our 91st Bomb Group, integrity of our members is very important. I value every member for just being who they are, and their willingness to play as a team and have fun with it.

Our group's integrity is very important because it's part of our reputation- involving good sportsmanship, patience, and respect.

As far as how we interact on this BBS, I haven't had much of an issue with any of our members, although I prefer that we keep it civil. Whether we type here or on open channel in the game, it's still interaction with the community.

With potential recruits, I generally have them hang out on our channel for about a week or so, giving them a chance to experience what we do, what sort of characters we are, etc. It's a matter of experience and intuition as well when you know someone who is interested is really trying to participate with the team and have fun. They are the ones who ask the intelligent questions, who act sincere, and are willing to try, make mistakes, and try again. I will also confer with my squadmates about potential recruits as well.
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Re: Unit integrity & Recruitment
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2009, 09:24:59 AM »
I do not actively recruit.  Usually someone hangs on a vox with us for a while and either asks for/or is offered an invite, or they move on.  Integrity for myself is very important.  I conduct myself as a gentleman, I expect the other Pigs in my squad to do the same.  Other than that it is all about the fun and the fight!
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Re: Unit integrity & Recruitment
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2009, 10:37:31 AM »
Just wanted to get some other opinions on this subject seeing as it hasn't been discussed before IIRC.

What are some of your views on a unit's integrity? Do you think it's important factor when browsing the boards or just playing the game in general or is it totally irrelevant?  

Also for C.O's: What are some procedures that you undertake when managing new recruits & applications? Just curious.

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Re: Unit integrity & Recruitment
« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2009, 10:45:21 AM »
we let wrag in our squad

enuff said





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Re: Unit integrity & Recruitment
« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2009, 10:47:27 AM »
we let wrag in our squad

enuff said





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Re: Unit integrity & Recruitment
« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2009, 11:19:56 AM »
  Quality of people is much more important then quantity as far as I'm concerned

sorry to chop up your post.....

but this statement is the single most important factor i think.
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Re: Unit integrity & Recruitment
« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2009, 11:30:34 AM »
we let wrag in our squad

enuff said





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Re: Unit integrity & Recruitment
« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2009, 02:29:09 PM »
Just wanted to get some other opinions on this subject seeing as it hasn't been discussed before IIRC.

What are some of your views on a unit's integrity? Do you think it's important factor when browsing the boards or just playing the game in general or is it totally irrelevant? 

Also for C.O's: What are some procedures that you undertake when managing new recruits & applications? Just curious.
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Re: Unit integrity & Recruitment
« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2009, 04:10:27 PM »
I don't recruit.  Entire squad is made up of guys I have flown with in different squads since I started.  If one of the guys has a friend he wants to bring in and he isn't a total jerk (or is a complete jerk and fits in perfectly) he is free to send an invite. :joystick:
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Re: Unit integrity & Recruitment
« Reply #13 on: November 16, 2009, 04:12:57 PM »
As C.O. we don't have set procedures really. We see someone that may be flying alone and we invite them to our channel. We welcome quite a few on channel actually.

They fly with us a while and we get a feel for them and they for us. IF they are interested we set em up. We've had members come and go and with the exception of a few have really had no problems when they leave.

Keeping everyone on the same page is sometimes like herding cats. We don't take anything to seriously as a squad and generally have one rule. Have fun , be courtious and try not to stir up the **** with folks on 200.

We have people from all over the world and generally cover all the time zones. So quite alot of the time we have 2 or 3 or more online flying.

We don't actively recruit on the BBS or in the game. We just pick up a stray here and there and that's it.
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Re: Unit integrity & Recruitment
« Reply #14 on: November 16, 2009, 04:25:15 PM »
AS far as recruitment the 13Th hasn't openly recruited in a while. My squad is based upon people i met when i started playing. Most were friends in other squads who I wound up getting when their squads' disentigrated.
Some have been pick-ups, see them landing kills , see they have no squad.. Half the time it works out half the time they leave... Most are 2 weekers and do not come back..
As far as integrity goes, I teach every squad member everything that I know, tricks, hints, learning techniques.. I want everyone in my squad to be able to do any taks within the games limits, If they cant, they usually dont stick- around long..  :salute Tuk151
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