"Still fly with more damage" setting?

[Chalenge]

Quite a few US fighters were known for their rugged construction, like the Jug, Corsair, Wildcat, Hellcat and Lightning.

As unlikely as it sounds today the Allison Mustangs were considered to be just as rugged.

[Strip]

Looks pretty sturdy to me....

Strip

[guncrasher]

Yea, i notice that it dose too.  But bomber, personally, should take more of a beating.

tru no way a p51 could shot down one buff with only one pass and here it happens regularly and sometimes they'll shoot down 2 and 3 on one pass.  and dont give me that crap about you gotta know the right place to aim.  one pass, nope, couple of passes yes.

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[Simba]

Only takes one bullet per pilot's head to get a pilot-kill.

 

[Enker]

Only takes one bullet per pilot's head to get a pilot-kill.

 

Do I hear the sound of a can opener? Because that was one mighty can of whoop-arse!

[oakranger]

tru no way a p51 could shot down one buff with only one pass and here it happens regularly and sometimes they'll shoot down 2 and 3 on one pass.  and dont give me that crap about you gotta know the right place to aim.  one pass, nope, couple of passes yes.

semp

Yes, how much do i hate that.  Or and p-38 takes out two with in a sec of each other. 

[guncrasher]

Only takes one bullet per pilot's head to get a pilot-kill.

 

you would have to kill the pilot, co-pilot and the navigator/radio operator with that magic bullet. 

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[Krusty]

600 rounds per minute, times 6 or 8 guns, spraying how many pounds of lead per second?

They're not all going to hit the pilot. They're going to shotgun blast everything in the cockpit.

[thndregg]

I would really love to see the B17 with this level of damage detail in AH. It's always a good feeling of accomplishment surviving an onslaught of enemy contacts, guns blazing, parts getting shredded, but you still get your bomber home, and wonder how you surivived.

[trigger2]

600 rounds per minute, times 6 or 8 guns, spraying how many pounds of lead per second?

They're not all going to hit the pilot. They're going to shotgun blast everything in the cockpit.

Not all are in the front of the cockpit, and even so, you're not going to get multiple planes in one pass. The navigator was usually towards the rear of the cockpit, which, unlike the fighters, are quite large. Plus, even if you don't know how to fly it well, I'm sure a gunner could take control of the plane, bombadier etc... etc...

The point is, you'd have to kill the crew, not just one man to send the bomber spiraling downwards, and even so, you'd still not be able to get multiple bombers in one pass, you'd be hard pressed IRL to even get one in one pass.

[Krusty]

You aim for the cockpit, you HIT the cockpit... the hit sprites are all over the cockpit....

You've just turned everything in the nose of that bomber into pink mist.

Once the pilot is dead the plane instantly blows up (to remove it from the game), so killing 2 or 3 planes in 1 pass is a matter of firing directly into the path of the lead bomber's cockpit, letting his first plane blow up, and then continuing to fire and killing the "new" pilot, and so on.

It's rare, but it's quite logical.

[Chalenge]

There was a story about a bomber that took a FlaK hit right above the cockpit. The copilot and engineer were killed instantly and the pilot fatally wounded but he was going to die and he knew it but with the copilot slumped over the controls he could not hold the nose up and they fell out of formation. The bombardier knew how to fly so the crew somehow managed to get the copilot clear of the controls and cared for the pilot (who died almost immediately). Then the enemy fighters came and the guns were not manned at the upper turret or nose and the bombardier was also killed along with the upper gunner the navigator the radio operator and one of the waist gunners. In the end one man made it out of the plane but he left the ball gunner locked in the ball and with the plane twisting down to the ground the tail gunner could not make his way out either. Instead of two men there were nine that lost their lives.

I think a cockpit shot is pretty effective and realistic. 

[guncrasher]

true but most buffs here are brought down by shooting from behind.  I got earlier today 4 buffs by shooting the wings off using about 140 20mm rounds. 3 i killed on a single pass (one at a time). not likely to happen in real life.

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[Chalenge]

For whatever reason... experience... time in plane... AH players tend to be better shots (I believe) and instead of attacking groups of bombers for the most part players only have to deal with three at a time. Consider also that AH players for the most part dont worry about a death if they can drop even one bomber. In real life most pilots would never take half the shots we try to make online.

[Simba]

"you would have to kill the pilot, co-pilot and the navigator/radio operator with that magic bullet."

In a B-17 or B-24 and in the real world, maybe - but not in AH, where those types are flown by a single pilot. And the real Lancaster didn't carry a co-pilot. The A-20/Boston ditto, one pilot, in a seat from which it was even harder to extract a wounded or dead pilot.