Dell XPS 9000?

[Spikes]

Not totally true Spikes. Part of the problem I have always had with Ati has been lag in driver support (for one) but you should know that people are looking at this card because of its multiple monitor support (something Ati failed to support previously and cost them in a class action) but the 5870 comes with a 256 bit memory bus versus the 512 bit memory bus of the Nvidia cards. Will this be a problem for everyone... NO. You might ask to see it working at high resolution on multiple monitors before you buy though.

While everyone is touting this is the top of the line card... Im not buying it primarily because I dont trust Ati or AMD either one. Also EVGA doesnt make this and they are my 'go-to' company for MBs and video cards. I own two 295s and guess what? The 295 does use a lot of wattage and it puts off a ton of heat but it also smokes the 5870:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlL4aombWyo

I simply said it's one of the best. Not THE best... I also think my HD5770 is up there as well.

[Chalenge]

Both of you completely ignored what I said about memory bus width like it doesnt mean anything. 

[MrRiplEy[H]]

Both of you completely ignored what I said about memory bus width like it doesnt mean anything. 

Considering the card is specialized in multidisplay configurations that may not be the kind of issue you think it is. Bus width is not the only factor, memory speed is the multiplier. The card uses GDDR5 against slower memory on nvidia IIRC.

[Chalenge]

Considering the card is specialized in multidisplay configurations that may not be the kind of issue you think it is. Bus width is not the only factor, memory speed is the multiplier. The card uses GDDR5 against slower memory on nvidia IIRC.

I think it is. The card drops out at high resolutions and cannot keep up with the 285 or the 295 (of course). To be fair the 295 IS two GPUs and so there was a recent test (PC Games Hardware) that compared the 5870 in Xfire to the 285 in SLI and the 5870 experienced severe stuttering. In AHII this will show up in even light dogfights and will get worse near CVs or fields with lots of AAA. The higher the resolution is pushed the larger the margin between the two setups and if you are using extreme resolutions with multi-monitors there is only one clear choice.

I cannot recommend the 295 to everyone. In fact if I were to buy again I would get two 275s and SLI them or maybe the 285s if they come down after Christmas.

[MrRiplEy[H]]

I think it is. The card drops out at high resolutions and cannot keep up with the 285 or the 295 (of course). To be fair the 295 IS two GPUs and so there was a recent test (PC Games Hardware) that compared the 5870 in Xfire to the 285 in SLI and the 5870 experienced severe stuttering. In AHII this will show up in even light dogfights and will get worse near CVs or fields with lots of AAA. The higher the resolution is pushed the larger the margin between the two setups and if you are using extreme resolutions with multi-monitors there is only one clear choice.

I cannot recommend the 295 to everyone. In fact if I were to buy again I would get two 275s and SLI them or maybe the 285s if they come down after Christmas.

IMO nvidia is overpriced and they will keep overpricing unless some real competition forces them to lower prices. That's why Nvidia has to have similarly priced and superior product before I'll buy one. I stoped using nvidia originally when their 2D desktop image quality sucked due to cheap RF filtering.