Buzz,
That is not
my summation. That's the summation on that web page. Did it get you stoked up enough to read the web page? I hope so.
The web page is probably the most complete list of items the USA sent to the USSR that I have ever seen.
I did do a search on Major Jordan's Diaries. Those are pretty interesting all by themselves and led me to the book he wrote. I want to find that and read it.
That led to some interesting info on Hopkins and other aspects of our atomic program. That led to a search on "Harry Hopkins KGB" on Google. More interesting info.
Here's a taste to whet your appetite for controversy.
"There is one more book based on VENONA due out in 2000, the late Eric Breindel and Herbert Romerstein’s The Venona Secrets: The Soviet Union’s World War II Espionage Campaign against the United States and How America Fought Back: A Story of Espionage, Counterespionage, and Betrayal. It has distinction beyond its long title. It will add corroboration to the work of Haynes and Klehr with new documentation and analysis, putting particular emphasis on the role of the Communist Party in Soviet espionage in America.
Undoubtedly, the most controversial facet of this book will be the portion arguing that Harry Hopkins was VENONA Agent 19. This will surely not be a popular thesis."
I can't vouch for any of it, however. The Venona documents are available on the NSA website:
http://www.nsa.gov/docs/venona/ I haven't had time to look at those yet. It does look like an area where I would like to do more research and it does provide a starting point for the discussion.
If
you want to dismiss it because you've already made up your mind, fine. I enjoy researching stuff like this.
Now, to some of your points.
I think calling Russia an "ally" of Japan is too strong. But then, I didn't write that summation.
However, it is undeniable that they both signed a "PACT OF NEUTRALITY BETWEEN UNION OF SOVIET SOCIALIST REPUBLICS AND JAPAN" on April 13, 1941. Here's the entire text:
http://www.ibiblio.org/pha/policy/1941/410413a.html A good page. Has the later (1945) Soviet denunciation and rejection of the neutrality treaty (one year before the pact expired
) and declaration of war against Japan as well.
Now you figure this out, Buzz old chum:
Where on this BBS have I ever said anything against the Russians in their fight against Germany? About all I have ever addressed with regards to that topic, in various threads, is the Lend-Lease aspect. Nor have I ever suggested it wasn't worth it, for either side.
For the most part I have merely pointed folks to threads that show the terms of the agreement, how much aid and what type aid was given, the cost and the eventual unlimited term, interest-free repayment of, write-off of and deferred payment of some of the debt.
So, before you go tooting through your own rectal orifice, why don't you take a bit of time to read what I have actually said instead of jumping to conclusions?
