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Offline lyric1

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Re: Italian bombers
« Reply #30 on: November 23, 2009, 06:21:09 PM »
The only issue I have with this is that.....we don't need an Axis heavy bomber.

In the MA all planes can be used by all sides, so it doesn't matter, and in scenarios, well, there is no time when Axis heavies really played a big role.


I'd certainly not object to a P.108, He177A-5 or H8K2, but none of them really fill a need.
All valid points :aok but it is a wish list for Italian bombers ;). Off topic for this thread but I for one would want the He111. It is the most iconic German bomber of WWII. IMHO.

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Re: Italian bombers
« Reply #31 on: December 02, 2009, 01:31:16 PM »
The SM.82 Marsupiale was Heavy bomber/transport
Manufacturer Savoia-Marchetti
First flight 1939
Introduced 1940
Retired After 1960
Primary users Regia Aeronautica
Luftwaffe
Aeronautica Nazionale Repubblicana
Aeronautica Militare
Produced 1939-1944
Number built about 720

  SM.82 (Bomber)
With a bombardier's gondola and bomb racks. 68 aircraft were ordered, and others were modified to this standard, at least partially.
SM.82 Carro armato
Four aircraft were modified to carry the L3/35 light tank.
SM.82 Trasporto caccia
With modified ventral doors to accommodate a disassembled FIAT CR.32, then adapted for a FIAT CR.42. Only two aircraft (MM.60293 and  MM.60294) were so ordered, and when used to deliver the aircraft to East Africa (a total of 51 aircraft) were fitted with two auxiliary fuel tanks (1,300 L/340 US gal each), and one additional oil tank (200 L/50 US gal).
SM.82 Trasporto motori
Two aircraft used to transport aircraft engines (MM.60290 and MM.60292) to Africa.
SM.82P
21 aircraft of the VIII series, modified for the use of paratroops.
SM.82 tanker
Two aircraft to transport up to 3,000 L (790 US gal) of fuel. Weight: 11,300-18,700 kg (24,910-41,230 lb).
SM.82bis
80 aircraft of series VIII, for night bombing, with 887 kW (1,190 hp) Piaggio P.IX engines. They were also fitted with the AR.128 engine, some in the S.82P and the S.82T versions.
SM.82 LATI
For international airlines. With ten seats, automatic pilot, toilet, enhanced radios, two additional fuel tanks of 653 L (173 US gal) each increased the range to 4,800 km (2,983 mi) at 250 km/h (155 mph). Maximum weight: 19,000 kg (41,888 lb). Only a few were built.
SM.82LW
Version for the Luftwaffe, with turrets and radios. 231 were in service in early 1944 in the "Savoia Gruppen", and were widely used in long range or heavy bombing missions.
S.82PD
An SM.75 modified for distance records, with 333 km/h (207 mph) over 1,000 km (620 mi) and 1,000 kg (2,200 lb), and 12,937 km (8,039 mi) in 57 h 32 min on 30 July-1 August 1939.
S.82PW
20 S.82s modified postwar with Pratt & Whitney R-1830 engines. Weight 12,100/18,700 kg (26,680/41,230 lb), max speed 381 km/h (237 mph), ceiling 6,000 m (19,690 ft). They served until 3 August 1960, and MM.61187 is preserved in its silver postwar colour scheme, in the Italian Air Force Museum at Vigna di Valle.

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Re: Italian bombers
« Reply #32 on: December 02, 2009, 04:54:18 PM »
kinda off topic but how about some french bombers too. Breguet 693 Amiot 143

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Re: Italian bombers
« Reply #33 on: December 02, 2009, 09:17:43 PM »
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Re: Italian bombers
« Reply #34 on: December 02, 2009, 10:55:02 PM »
kinda off topic but how about some french bombers too. (Image removed from quote.) Breguet 693 (Image removed from quote.) Amiot 143
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Re: Italian bombers
« Reply #35 on: December 12, 2009, 04:21:56 AM »
+1 for any of the 3 engine Italian planes! Cool!  :aok
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Re: Italian bombers
« Reply #36 on: December 12, 2009, 12:09:12 PM »
Hey Karnak Some ppl only Axis Aircraft.  JG11 only flies German and Italian planes. So give those of us who do something to fly around.
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Re: Italian bombers
« Reply #37 on: December 12, 2009, 12:21:05 PM »
Throwing jugs of wine out of an aircraft doesn't do alot of damage..................  The 143 carried 9000 pounds of wine.  Yet that loadout only yields a 9 pound bomb.   :D

kinda off topic but how about some french bombers too. (Image removed from quote.) Breguet 693 (Image removed from quote.) Amiot 143
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Re: Italian bombers
« Reply #38 on: December 12, 2009, 02:33:40 PM »
Hey Karnak Some ppl only Axis Aircraft.  JG11 only flies German and Italian planes. So give those of us who do something to fly around.
You don't need heavy bombers then, as historically the Germans, Italians and Japanese had no significant or effective heavy bomber forces.  Either you fly German stuff because you like the historical deal, in which case you should want Do17s, He111s, Ju88s, Do217s and Ju188s as your bombers.  If you are asking for a German, Japanese or Italian heavy bomber you may as well fly Lancasters or Flying Fortresses as you are already tossing history out the door.
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Re: Italian bombers
« Reply #39 on: December 12, 2009, 07:11:57 PM »
I don't care if you call them Heavy. I just want more German and Italian Bombers. Seeing that we only have 1 German level bomber in game and no Italian that seems like a reasonable request. 
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Re: Italian bombers
« Reply #40 on: December 12, 2009, 07:30:06 PM »
The SM79 would be nice to have for early-war and mid-war events.   :aok


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