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Offline bravoa8

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Re: What Does this mean?
« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2009, 08:44:22 PM »
It means people will have an excuse to explain how my the 38L owns....
It means all the 38 SAPP peoples will be flying Zeros from now on. :lol

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Re: What Does this mean?
« Reply #16 on: December 04, 2009, 04:25:21 AM »
No were talking about the 38's preformance on Mars.

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Re: What Does this mean?
« Reply #17 on: December 04, 2009, 08:03:09 AM »
I think there were a few planes that could literally hang on the prop when they shouldnt (vis-a-vis prop efficiency).

Fortunately for us Lightning drivers, the P-38 isn't one of those planes that shouldn't be able to hang on its prop.


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you mean in the game?


No were talking about the 38's preformance on Mars.

:rofl


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are you trying to say you were not referring to the real world in the exchange above?  
because the word "shouldn't" really is out of place if you were only discussing the game, or Mars.  

if you are now trying to imply that real world capabilities were not on your mind,
then i am not sure which is more sad,
your feeble attempt to wiggle out from under your original statement with a gif,
or the lack of understanding that allowed you to post it in the first place.  

When held perfectly vertical, it will virtually stop in midair and stay there much longer than other fighters. It also has the ability to take an equal amount of starting energy and, when pulled straight up, climb higher than most (if not all) other fighters.

p38 ???  :huh  :lol  :rofl


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Re: What Does this mean?
« Reply #18 on: December 04, 2009, 12:45:26 PM »
are you trying to say you were not referring to the real world in the exchange above?  
because the word "shouldn't" really is out of place if you were only discussing the game, or Mars.  

if you are now trying to imply that real world capabilities were not on your mind,
then i am not sure which is more sad,
your feeble attempt to wiggle out from under your original statement with a gif,
or the lack of understanding that allowed you to post it in the first place.  

p38 ???  :huh  :lol  :rofl




I was responding to Stoke's post because I found it to be rather funny, especially since his sarcastic post seems to have gone completely above your head.

Yes, the P-38, in real life, had excellent vertical performance and due to lack of torque from its counter rotating props, had the ability to hang 'on its props' while in the vertical maneuver.  Coupled with having two engines, good E retention, low stall speed and gentle stall characteristics and very easy stall recovery, all gave the Lightning excellent vertical performance.

So please, regale me with your 'experten' knowledge and tell me how the P-38 was not good in the vertical in real life and the P-38's vertical performance in the game is due to incorrect flight model.  I'm sure you'll have just about as much success in proving yourself correct as you've had in your previous threads.  

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Re: What Does this mean?
« Reply #19 on: December 04, 2009, 12:49:51 PM »
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Re: What Does this mean?
« Reply #20 on: December 04, 2009, 12:59:15 PM »
This thread is going well.
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Re: What Does this mean?
« Reply #21 on: December 04, 2009, 01:27:42 PM »
This thread is going well.

It's not thorsim's fault...he's just a luftwhiner and asking them to change would be like asking a leopard to change his spots.


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Re: What Does this mean?
« Reply #22 on: December 04, 2009, 01:49:05 PM »
you sure about all that ...

I was responding to Stoke's post because I found it to be rather funny, especially since his sarcastic post seems to have gone completely above your head.

Yes, the P-38, in real life, had excellent vertical performance and due to lack of torque from its counter rotating props, had the ability to hang 'on its props' while in the vertical maneuver.  Coupled with having two engines, good E retention, low stall speed and gentle stall characteristics and very easy stall recovery, all gave the Lightning excellent vertical performance.

So please, regale me with your 'experten' knowledge and tell me how the P-38 was not good in the vertical in real life and the P-38's vertical performance in the game is due to incorrect flight model.  I'm sure you'll have just about as much success in proving yourself correct as you've had in your previous threads.  

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Re: What Does this mean?
« Reply #23 on: December 04, 2009, 01:54:06 PM »
you sure about all that ...


He still doesn't get it...

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Re: What Does this mean?
« Reply #24 on: December 04, 2009, 01:55:03 PM »
you sure about all that ...


That in real life the P-38 had excellent vertical performance?   Yes, I am sure.


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Re: What Does this mean?
« Reply #25 on: December 04, 2009, 01:58:48 PM »
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Re: What Does this mean?
« Reply #26 on: December 04, 2009, 02:11:37 PM »
Interesting how everyone else posts statistics, figures, and research and he replies with single sentences as if he's threatening to open the floodgates in hopes that everyone will get scared off and he can claim victory. :lol
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Re: What Does this mean?
« Reply #27 on: December 04, 2009, 02:31:20 PM »
I think what he actually does is 'cherry pick' from posts and tries to tie them together in a way inconsistent with the original posters intent.
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Re: What Does this mean?
« Reply #28 on: December 04, 2009, 03:01:15 PM »
That in real life the P-38 had excellent vertical performance?   Yes, I am sure.


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no are you sure about this ...

had the ability to hang 'on its props' while in the vertical maneuver

for all the reasons you stated below ...

Yes, the P-38, in real life, had excellent vertical performance and due to lack of torque from its counter rotating props, had the ability to hang 'on its props' while in the vertical maneuver.  Coupled with having two engines, good E retention, low stall speed and gentle stall characteristics and very easy stall recovery, all gave the Lightning excellent vertical performance.

because i am not sure those are the attributes that would allow a plane to do this ...

When held perfectly vertical, it will virtually stop in midair and stay there much longer than other fighters. It also has the ability to take an equal amount of starting energy and, when pulled straight up, climb higher than most (if not all) other fighters.

or something like that ...
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Re: What Does this mean?
« Reply #29 on: December 04, 2009, 03:07:40 PM »
Two engines. High efficiency airframe. High inertia. Efficient propellers. General engineering genius.
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