Vista dosen't boot, but XP does?

[Ruler2]

Well, I just moved my hard drive back into the retail hp it came with a few weeks ago, and Vista now will not boot, it will get to the windows loading screen, then freeze and flash a blue scrren at me and turn off, yet this dosent happen at all with XP, which was tacked into a different partition for a dual boot sys. Anyone have any ideas as to what is causing this?

[guncrasher]

if that hd was set up in another computer and you moved it back to its original computer then you may have to reinstall os again.

semp

[Ruler2]

I didn't have to when I changed it the first time though, that's strange. I even ran the Vista recovery and it said nothing was wrong...

[gyrene81]

I didn't have to when I changed it the first time though, that's strange. I even ran the Vista recovery and it said nothing was wrong...

That can happen when you put the drive into a system that has a lot of legacy hardware drivers built into the OS...it will "plug n play"...however, once it has done that and you put it back into newer hardware that needs specific device drivers...it won't work.

[Ghastly]

Well, I just moved my hard drive back

What part of

"Windows marries itself to the hardware of the system it's INSTALLED ON such that you often can't successfully move a Windows installation even to an identical system to the original without problems - often inexplicable, and often down the road aways when something you do triggers a hardware detection  - let alone a random mix of different hardware"


are you still not getting?

Play around all you want, but when you move a Windows installation to another system and it doesn't work, it's because moving a Windows system to another hardware platform isn't expected to work.  When it does - and most especially when it continues to work over time -  Congratulations - you've beaten the odds.   

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[TequilaChaser]

If this is a SATA type HD, you should be able to recover your files at least...... that is if you can not see the Partition that is not booting up ( the Vista partition? )

if you can not see it, when booting up in Windows XP, then boot up off of another HD ( regardless if its WinXP or Vista or Win7 ) and then you should be able to just plug in the messed up SATA HD while your system is booted up, and it will act like a regular ol USB flash drive or memory card, per say....

it should be "Hot Swappable"......and should show both partitions as 2 new drives.so you can recover your files, at least.....

(^ PLEASE USE CAUTION WHEN DOING THIS, BE CAREFUL TO NOT MESS UP AND SHORT OUT THE PC, PSU, MB,  HD itself )
for some of us, it is very simple, for others it can be a daunting task to try, if you not messed with PC's much...just saying

hope this helps........ it has worked for me many times, when helping others recover files, etc from when they screw up their NTDLR(?) file and can't get their PC's to boot up.......( I may have missed typed that driver file name )

Good Luck......

[Ruler2]

hope this helps........ it has worked for me many times, when helping others recover files, etc from when they screw up their NTDLR(?) file and can't get their PC's to boot up.......( I may have missed typed that driver file name )

 Been there, done that, all I needed to do to fix that problem was get an OEM disc and run the repair feature.  I just don't understand why moving this HDD from a lower end system (what im using now) to a higher end system gave no problems whatsoever, but when I go back down, all hell breaks loose,lol.

Now, if there was some way to work the partitions and what not with XP I would be just fine, I could move the files from the Vista partition, delete it, and expand the XP partition to take its place, only problem is, XP does not have that tool like Vista does 

[Motherland]

Errr my computer?

[Ghastly]

The "repair feature" - also known as in-place upgrade - doesn't usually remove old crud from the hardware section of the registry that pertained to the no longer available hardware, and it doesn't do SQUAT for any ancillary software that is hardware specific in any way. 

Note that he's not talking about accessing files on the drive - he's asking why Windows doesn't work properly when he moves the disk from system to system (to system) and back again.

Windows marries itself to the hardware when it's installed.  If you need to perform any major hardware changes, you often need to reinstall Windows or you will have a Windows installation that will behave in an often increasingly aberrant manner until you do.

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[TequilaChaser]

Now, if there was some way to work the partitions and what not with XP I would be just fine, I could move the files from the Vista partition, delete it, and expand the XP partition to take its place, only problem is, XP does not have that tool like Vista does 

well you lost me with this post........ 

I read that you can boot up under windows XP....... but when you do you do not see the partition that holds Vista? Correct?

does it show where the excess disc space is? or is it missing all together?


the reason I posted above to start with, was so you can go to another PC perhaps, regardless if it is WindowsXP(winXPpro preferably...not sure what WinXP home offers ) Vista, or Windows 7... and plug in the SATA HD ( as described above ) that you are having problems with.. you should see both partitions when you do this..... and can copy/back up the Vista Partition's files you want to save.......  then perhaps use a Partition Program and recover the mis allocated disc space.....

as Ghastly mentions sort of, I too do not put much faith into nor do I use the OEM disc repair / recovery console or program....


something that might help people who read these threads, is to offer up more info .......like how was the HD originally set up?

did it come preloaded with WinXP OS from a manufacturer?

or did you install the 1st OS on the HD?

did you setup the dual boot option?

there is a few bit of unknowns regarding your problem, that if known, might help people here, help you find a solution....

from my experience, this always works for me when working on problems for others, trying to recover stuff/files.......

[Ghosth]

What they are trying to say is that you can move hard drives, swap data back and forth.

What normally doesn't work is Moving an Installed Operating system.

If you must, save the data off the disk, put it into the system, partition, format, and reinstall OS from scratch.
Anything else is looking for problems long term. When you install an OS part of what its doing is telling that OS how to work with exactly "this" hardware, that it detects as part of the process. Change the hardware and you have given your OS a major chance to screw the pooch.

I have moved "files" between identical systems to fix a problem, but never tried to move HD.
Thats when both sets of hardware were identical.

Much easier in the long run to backup the disk, clean it off, and install from scratch.
Besides, you should do that every 6 months to 1yr anyway just to clean out the gunk.

[Ruler2]

well you lost me with this post........ 

I read that you can boot up under windows XP....... but when you do you do not see the partition that holds Vista? Correct?

does it show where the excess disc space is? or is it missing all together?


the reason I posted above to start with, was so you can go to another PC perhaps, regardless if it is WindowsXP(winXPpro preferably...not sure what WinXP home offers ) Vista, or Windows 7... and plug in the SATA HD ( as described above ) that you are having problems with.. you should see both partitions when you do this..... and can copy/back up the Vista Partition's files you want to save.......  then perhaps use a Partition Program and recover the mis allocated disc space.....

as Ghastly mentions sort of, I too do not put much faith into nor do I use the OEM disc repair / recovery console or program....


something that might help people who read these threads, is to offer up more info .......like how was the HD originally set up?

did it come preloaded with WinXP OS from a manufacturer?

or did you install the 1st OS on the HD?

did you setup the dual boot option?

there is a few bit of unknowns regarding your problem, that if known, might help people here, help you find a solution....

from my experience, this always works for me when working on problems for others, trying to recover stuff/files.......

I can SEE and access both partitions just fine, I even have the boot option for Vista on the BIOS screen

HD was originally set up with one partition, then I split it.

It CAME with VISTA preinstalled on it, but I had to reinstall it 2x from the recovery partition