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Offline Bino

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Re: Wiping a hard drive
« Reply #15 on: December 24, 2009, 12:46:10 AM »
...the platters shatter.

I recently was disassembling a hard drive from a Toshiba laptop - in order to trash the data on the platter - and found that is was GLASS with a thin metal coating.  Boy howdy, did *that* shatter!


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Re: Wiping a hard drive
« Reply #16 on: December 24, 2009, 08:58:17 AM »
Please note the important qualifier: For truly sensitive information, TilDeath's method leaves a lot to be desired.  Note too that we don't really know why the brother wants to wipe the drive.  Is it because he doesn't want anyone to read his email, or browse his vacation pictures?  Or is it because it contains confidential financial information for a client base of several thousand customers?  

The 2 hole method described leaves a lot to be desired for truly sensitive information because while it ruins the drive as a functional device, unless it shatters the platters themselves as has been mentioned, most of the data on the platters will remain intact.  And while you or I would be able to estimate where to drill the holes to do the most damage to the platters, not everyone is necessary going to do so.  And while a typical recovery company may not generally be able to recover it because they are geared toward recovery of a failing (but otherwise undamaged) drive at a cost effective price point, the fact remains that most of the data is still there. In fact, depending upon where the holes end up, ALL of the data on the platters could still be intact.

Again, if you are just trying to prevent someone from picking the drive out of the trash and reading the data off of it, it's fine.  

But if the information is truly sensitive, given that it takes only a little more effort to totally destroy the platters, that's what I'd suggest. And if it's really important that the destruction of the data be guranteed, use gyrenes method (smash the drive until you hear it rattle when you shake it, or dismantle it and specifically destroy the platters  then send the remains to a professional service that will destroy the them in a shredder like this one ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yd_O7-rqcHc ) - and then (typically) subject them to heat to further render them unusable.

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Re: Wiping a hard drive
« Reply #17 on: December 24, 2009, 09:00:36 AM »
If you really want a done job on it, take a sledge hammer to it multiple times.
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Re: Wiping a hard drive
« Reply #18 on: December 24, 2009, 11:35:06 AM »
Three low-level formats (as suggested above) will do the trick just fine. Best of all, you click a few buttons and the computer does the rest.... No physical exertion required.
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Re: Wiping a hard drive
« Reply #19 on: December 24, 2009, 12:10:23 PM »
My brother in law has a HD that he wants to wipe but he does not want to install it in a computer.

Agreed, but we were responding to this request.

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Re: Wiping a hard drive
« Reply #20 on: December 24, 2009, 12:18:57 PM »
Oh, dang it. Sorry, I read it but it didn't click.
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Re: Wiping a hard drive
« Reply #21 on: December 24, 2009, 02:58:46 PM »
I'm really suprised no one has said anything about exposing the drive to a strong electromagnet.

I thought that would have been the ultimate wipe of choice.

Personally I'd bore a hole in the outer case, fill cavity with ferrite, touch it off.
I really doubt anyone would ever get anything off those platters.

Plus it would be a bit of fun. But perhaps a smidge of overkill.

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Re: Wiping a hard drive
« Reply #22 on: December 24, 2009, 04:45:57 PM »
I'm really suprised no one has said anything about exposing the drive to a strong electromagnet.

I thought that would have been the ultimate wipe of choice.

Personally I'd bore a hole in the outer case, fill cavity with ferrite, touch it off.
I really doubt anyone would ever get anything off those platters.

Plus it would be a bit of fun. But perhaps a smidge of overkill.

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Re: Wiping a hard drive
« Reply #23 on: December 24, 2009, 11:04:40 PM »
Bino I have often thought I could be a "consultant" for mythbusters.  :)

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Re: Wiping a hard drive
« Reply #24 on: December 25, 2009, 09:14:17 AM »
Hard drives contain rather massive rare-earth magnets themselves, so I think the magnet trick is a holdover from the days of the floppy disk.
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Re: Wiping a hard drive
« Reply #25 on: December 26, 2009, 12:09:58 PM »
I don't know where you can buy a strong enough electromagnet to effectively erase a hard disk these days. The last time I tried to do so with a heavy duty bulk tape eraser, even exposing a single drive for the full 5 minute duty cycle didn't do it.

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Re: Wiping a hard drive
« Reply #26 on: December 26, 2009, 05:46:19 PM »
Hammer is fine. Keep it simple :)

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Re: Wiping a hard drive
« Reply #27 on: December 26, 2009, 09:21:43 PM »
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Re: Wiping a hard drive
« Reply #28 on: December 26, 2009, 09:31:33 PM »
i have a old electromagnet, I was wondering if would erase a hard drive but i didnt want to try it on mine;O)  I used to use it on cassette tapes.Mabe its  called a demagnetizer. Been sitting in the barn in a box for the last 30 years.
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Re: Wiping a hard drive
« Reply #29 on: December 27, 2009, 12:54:00 AM »
Mabe its  called a demagnetizer.

A degaussing ring, perhaps?
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