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Offline Strip

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Re: Sopwith Camel
« Reply #15 on: December 21, 2009, 08:31:03 PM »
Wheres the prop? Not even a hint of it?
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Offline Krusty

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Re: Sopwith Camel
« Reply #16 on: December 21, 2009, 08:40:39 PM »
Shouldn't the engine be rotating around at very high speeds? Didn't they bolt the crankshaft to the frame and the engine spun around, moving the prop with it?
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Offline Motherland

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Re: Sopwith Camel
« Reply #17 on: December 21, 2009, 08:41:55 PM »
Quote from: Krusty on December 21, 2009, 08:40:39 PM
Shouldn't the engine be rotating around at very high speeds? Didn't they bolt the crankshaft to the frame and the engine spun around, moving the prop with it?
From what I recall on the superfokker, the engine does rotate, it's just not replaced with a semitransparent bitmap like the propeller.
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Offline Krusty

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Re: Sopwith Camel
« Reply #18 on: December 21, 2009, 08:45:51 PM »
Ah... very cool. Too bad AH doesn't incorporate motion blur with some in-between step (like having part of the bitmap laid out to show a blurred rotating engine, then replace the "stopped" bitmap with "blurred" when running....)
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Re: Sopwith Camel
« Reply #19 on: December 21, 2009, 09:24:49 PM »
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Truly an underrated capability...  

I'll say.

You can start a download for normal sized porn files, go to the toilet to grab some toilet paper, and when you come back the download's finished and ready...


... or, would this be a inadequate subject to discuss in HTC forums?


(ps) I think it'd be ok.. since obviously AH forums tend to show slight preference to bestiality with sheep... right?  :x

(ps2) great.. I'm talking all dirty now.. my blood sugar levels must be low again..
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Offline Enker

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Re: Sopwith Camel
« Reply #20 on: December 21, 2009, 09:28:25 PM »
Quote from: Kweassa on December 21, 2009, 07:42:21 PM
They should come live here in Korea - we're a wierd wired world.

We can provide them with a connection that downloads gigabytes-sized porn within 10mins.

I guess you guys actually get what you pay for. $40 for 120kb/s. Wonderful isn't it.
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Re: Sopwith Camel
« Reply #21 on: December 22, 2009, 12:24:39 AM »
You mean that's all you've done?! :lol I can see it's not coming out this year. :salute Skuzzy and the rest...
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Offline Masherbrum

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Re: Sopwith Camel
« Reply #22 on: December 22, 2009, 01:29:33 AM »
Great tune and great shots:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RKHq5b3oLI

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Re: Sopwith Camel
« Reply #23 on: December 22, 2009, 06:29:44 AM »
Quote from: Motherland on December 21, 2009, 04:28:24 PM
Whoops sorry...
I've always found clicking on thumbnails more annoying than just having large images and figured other people thought the same way. I'll keep that in mind the next time I post...

I agree with you.
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Re: Sopwith Camel
« Reply #24 on: December 22, 2009, 09:06:28 AM »
Quote from: Enker on December 21, 2009, 09:28:25 PM
I guess you guys actually get what you pay for. $40 for 120kb/s. Wonderful isn't it.

Korea and Japan are lightyears ahead of us in telecommunications infrastructure.
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Re: Sopwith Camel
« Reply #25 on: December 22, 2009, 02:48:34 PM »
I'll have to look up the 'double dumb-bell' squadron marking when I get back to my library in Blighty; Les Rogers' RFC Squadron Markings' will have at least one pic plus the gen. Meanwhile I'll just sit here in Spain, sipping a rather splendid single malt and congratulating myself on having the foresight to escape the snow in Britain well in time for Christmas.

Sopwith's Humpy One has a lousy outlook from the cockpit, the pilot being seated below the upper mainplane. I'll take the SE5a every time when H-T and the gang get round to including it in the planeset.

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Re: Sopwith Camel
« Reply #26 on: December 22, 2009, 03:53:52 PM »
SE5 does have far better visibility than the F1, though I'd still prefer 2xVickers to the 1 Vickers and a Lewis gun that required the pilot to stand up and reload it. :uhoh
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Re: Sopwith Camel
« Reply #27 on: December 22, 2009, 06:12:03 PM »
Early over-wing Lewis mountings as on the Martinsyde S.1 were fixed - No.6 Squadron RFC's Louis Strange famously nearly came to grief standing up in the cockpit to change an ammo drum - but the SE5 and SE5a employed the Foster mounting, which enabled the pilot to unlatch the gun via a Bowden cable and then slide it back and down along a curved track to reload. The airflow assisted the backward movement, made against the tension of an aerolastic ('bungee') cord which assisted the pilot in pushing the gun back up into its forward-firing position when he'd finished reloading. The procedure required some physical effort, particularly at altitude, but the pilot needed only to slightly raise himself off his seat to accomplish it.

The Lewis gun was retained in the SE5a design because it was lightweight and less prone to jam when fired whilst manoeuvring. The Foster mounting also enabled the pilot to fire obliquely upwards and forwards at a target flying above him - an early form of 'Schrage Musik' much favoured by Albert Ball VC and others.

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Offline gatt

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Re: Sopwith Camel
« Reply #28 on: December 23, 2009, 03:42:04 AM »
Ugly cockpit and that stationary engine ... argh ... :huh

The Camel flight model will really tell us how good is the game engine. Rotaries engined scouts, mostly the Camel, but also the Nieuports and some Fokkers, are probably the most difficult to model.

Torque and gyro effects, the use of blip-switch, togheter with prop wash effects on different type of fuselages can be a nightmare for a programmer.

We are lucky we have plenty of test reports about the Camel, so we'll be able to judge ..... anyway, good work to the programmers and good luck!  
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Re: Sopwith Camel
« Reply #29 on: December 23, 2009, 12:09:12 PM »
no brakes
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