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Re: Dueling vs MA fighting
« Reply #240 on: January 13, 2010, 12:21:51 PM »
..... you can do that on a phone.  :D

i have a better chance of playin ah2 on my phone than he does on his 'puter  :huh
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Re: Dueling vs MA fighting
« Reply #241 on: January 13, 2010, 12:46:14 PM »
Quoted from Vlasov from the same BBS in a thread where stiglr was pissin' and moanin' about TW's damage model ...

That isn't really a damage model problem. It might be a problem with acm files, but not with the damage model. The real problem with the damage model is that all objects are made of the same, single material, and that mass is the only factor that controls damage.

LOL ... all objects are made of the same material ... I can only imagine the corners that were cut or assumptions made in their Flight Model.
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Re: Dueling vs MA fighting
« Reply #242 on: January 13, 2010, 01:45:27 PM »
I was rtb in a 152 a few weeks back and got jumped by Shiv, A good stick and very fun fight :salute, He was closing fast so I did a low yo yo into a vertical reverse to force a fight, he overshot but I kept my E noticing I wasnt getting a shot then went up, he came down a little early where he should have roped and he missed his opportunity, me being slower popped him when he came back up, just one mistake on his part that I noticed from dueling alot where most of the fights between like sticks gets to, scissors  :rock

Edit- btw stinglr he was in a F4U I was in a 152, all it takes is 1 mistake by a good plane to lose to one that is a "Lesser"

 :salute Junky, I remember that one, a very nice kill from a disadvantage. Great shot too.  Made me think at the time that I had better start going to the DA for some 1v1s to sharpen up.  The MA can be a lot of fun, but I find I learn stuff pretty slow there. 

And while killing is fun, getting better is more fun in the long run. 

The last three times I've done 1v1s in the DA I've either learned some things or at least gained a better understanding of some concepts that I never would have got in the MA.   Big :salute to TheForce, TnDep, and Phanta.

I'm going to try and stop by more often, hope I can catch you there Junky, Ardy ,Bone, etc, etc.
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Re: Dueling vs MA fighting
« Reply #243 on: January 13, 2010, 02:18:10 PM »
Still, for times we don't have many flying, I have plenty to do building a dozen or more aircraft, writing scenarios, 3D modeling, solving problems and what not... the goal is in sight! I really think we'll have a Target:Corregidor launch this year, without question!!! :)

Target:Corregidor ...  :rofl ... if you ever get that "load" released, it will be completely blown away by Target:Tobruk. The only one that will be flying TC will be you and anyone you pay to fly it with you.

Your overwhelming knack of pissing people off has completely alienated you from the TT dev crowd and they wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire. They won't share with you and it's not surprising why they won't.
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Re: Dueling vs MA fighting
« Reply #244 on: January 13, 2010, 02:32:10 PM »
rofl;

Which Target:Rabaul are you referring to? The future-looking Targetware 2 version (to which all mods will upgrade to if and when it ever gets released)... or the 0.64 Target:Tobruk, which the mod leaders have forsaken to work on TW2 (and to which I plan to contribute to, if I get a moment to write some campaigns for it)?

The original TT people, while they've done a lot of good work, have personality "quirks" of their own that make it hard to work with them. :shrug: No wonder they've taken such a separatist stance from the rest of the TW mods, T:Rabaul, T4T, T:Korea and Richthofen's Skies included. It's not just me that they alienate.

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Re: Dueling vs MA fighting
« Reply #245 on: January 13, 2010, 02:56:55 PM »
The original TT people have personality "quirks" of their own that make it hard to work with them. :shrug:
Dude, go find a mirror asap and check into it.  When one person thinks many others have quirks that make them hard to deal with chances are damned good the only real quirk is the one doing the complaining.
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Re: Dueling vs MA fighting
« Reply #246 on: January 13, 2010, 03:14:57 PM »
Guys you are feeding a troll from the TW forums who has been moderated by all of their moderators.

Instead, Stiglr we shoot each other down in this game for awhile before we cause trouble in our forums. You want to troll us here, first come to the DA with me and anyone else who signs up to baby seal slap you.

I challenge Stiglr to DA!

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Re: Dueling vs MA fighting
« Reply #247 on: January 13, 2010, 03:17:13 PM »
Dude, go find a mirror asap and check into it.  When one person thinks many others have quirks that make them hard to deal with chances are damned good the only real quirk is the one doing the complaining.
Huh ...TW must attract the "quirky personalty" types.

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Re: Dueling vs MA fighting
« Reply #248 on: January 13, 2010, 03:25:07 PM »
Hey guys,

I think this link is why stiglr is here bothering us.

http://www.targetware.net/modules.php?op=modload&name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=16121
ZOMG that threas is teh funnay. :rofl
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Re: Dueling vs MA fighting
« Reply #249 on: January 13, 2010, 03:26:56 PM »
rofl;

Which Target:Rabaul are you referring to? The future-looking Targetware 2 version (to which all mods will upgrade to if and when it ever gets released)... or the 0.64 Target:Tobruk, which the mod leaders have forsaken to work on TW2 (and to which I plan to contribute to, if I get a moment to write some campaigns for it)?

The original TT people, while they've done a lot of good work, have personality "quirks" of their own that make it hard to work with them. :shrug: No wonder they've taken such a separatist stance from the rest of the TW mods, T:Rabaul, T4T, T:Korea and Richthofen's Skies included. It's not just me that they alienate.

Nobody said anything about Target:Rabaul.

Target:Tobruk stopped development of it's MOD of the vintage 2005 0.64 engine back in 2008 ... supposedly it is developing for the new TW2 ... the whole "TargetWare" universe and it future is pretty much vaporware ... outside of the old and worn scenarios that use the vintage 2003 0.63 engine which I am sure is pretty much perfect when it comes to rendering flight and damage models ...  :rofl

I saw some of your work for your up and coming and highly anticipated Target:Corregidor ... amateurish at best. Do you wonder why you are just about the only one that is doing anything to create Target:Corregidor ... it's because %99.99999 of the people can't stand you and your arrogance.
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Re: Dueling vs MA fighting
« Reply #250 on: January 13, 2010, 03:28:56 PM »
Uptown,

I'm not the greatest stick but I can hold my own in most cases.  I do see what you are talking about and the primary two reasons why you are running out of E is number 1 over use of flaps not pulling them in when you don't need them anymore and  2 pulling to hard on the stick making the stall limiter go off.  I primary do duels over anything else because like you I want to become better in the 1v1 environment, so I can compete in more koth's.  

There are times in a fight that you may say If I go straight for another sec or two then pull hard I'll get a snapshot working those angles but at the same time if you miss you already need to have your next move planned.  It's very similar to chess once you learn what your doing wrong.  

Come find me and I'll work with you

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Re: Dueling vs MA fighting
« Reply #251 on: January 13, 2010, 04:18:08 PM »
Forcing an overshoot comes to mind.... or, if you're better or more patient than your opponent, and can get him to blow his E while you conserve yours long enough to stay flyable and then reverse the tables... then do that.

You still don't absolutely need to start with a HO merge to explore that. In fact, since you mention greater speed/E, that wouldn't be a duel to begin with, would it?

Your post seems to me like you're just reading out of a book, and not speaking with any expierence. Overshoots are easier said than done, and if the other 51 is halfway decent stick, he'll BnZ you or just keep slashing you till you fall from the sky, your own skill and patients be damned.
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Re: Dueling vs MA fighting
« Reply #252 on: January 13, 2010, 04:21:24 PM »
Your post seems to me like you're just reading out of a book, and not speaking with any expierence. Overshoots are easier said than done, and if the other 51 is halfway decent stick, he'll BnZ you or just keep slashing you till you fall from the sky, your own skill and patients be damned.
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Re: Dueling vs MA fighting
« Reply #253 on: January 13, 2010, 04:36:59 PM »
Try what exactly? Forcing an overshoot, or BnZing?

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Re: Dueling vs MA fighting
« Reply #254 on: January 13, 2010, 04:44:46 PM »
Try what exactly? Forcing an overshoot, or BnZing?
BnZ'ing the Pony, like any 'half decent pilot would', instead of committing to an energy/angles/turning fight. I'll even flat turn at the merge if you'd like.

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