Author Topic: 190 A's (Read 650 times)

Wilbus · « **Reply #15 on:** June 21, 2001, 07:49:00 AM »

Yes I know, I sent you another mail right after that one, the films are there.

MANDOBLE · « **Reply #16 on:** June 21, 2001, 07:51:00 AM »

Wilbus, try to send it again, no new mails on this side.

Wilbus · « **Reply #17 on:** June 21, 2001, 08:01:00 AM »

Cc, very weird, sending it again.

hazed- · « **Reply #18 on:** June 21, 2001, 08:41:00 AM »

i havent had an oil leak either !! but then im not flying 190s heheheh

im driving tanks and stuff in WW2ol

its not AH for flying but the tanks are nicer i think.
Ive been asking about this 1 ping engine kill since the 190 arrived i think.Ignored all along.Ive made loads of ack runs in 190s and p51s and the p51 is much more durable to ack hits.It took on average 2-4 ack hits to take p51 down,many 1 ping wings off but nowhere near the same percentage as 190 ack runs with 1 ping engine kills(mainly 1st pass) followed closely by tail section removal (on 2nd passes usually).also when the engine is hit first pass in p51 you can get 3-4 more passes usually before engine dies.the 190 gets 1st pass then maybe 1-2 more deadstick before it has to ditch.Usually you cant even use all of your ammo in time.sucks after long flights in doesnt it?.
Its really not the job of customers to constantly test and try to prove what they perceive to be bugged i think.Its in HTCs interest to test it a little so if they havent got time, give one of the pilots a free month and set them test tasks.
I garentee yet again nothing will be said on this subject, never has been much concern over this i dont think

[ 06-21-2001: Message edited by: hazed- ]

Wilbus · « **Reply #19 on:** June 21, 2001, 09:59:00 AM »

I won't rest untill it's fixed, I have a couple of pages written by Kurt Tank and yet more pages written by Ground attack, Sturmgruppe and different other 190 pilots, I'll post some from Kurt Tanks later.

TRiMmer · « **Reply #20 on:** June 21, 2001, 05:20:00 PM »

<S> Wilbus, this has happened to me many many times in 190A5. I had always assumed that 40mm hit had occurred, and maybe some of those were...but, if you need help testing, e-mail me or catch me on-line. cya.

trm

air_ReCoile · « **Reply #21 on:** June 23, 2001, 01:24:00 PM »

Just had a dead engine AND oil leak from a single ping frontal attack (no I didn't try to HO, came out of a turn together with adversary)

Have experienced many one ping dead engines too in 190 without a oil leak.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #22 on:** June 23, 2001, 02:20:00 PM »

I have noticed this on the 190s, Dora included, and the P38. There is something that just kills the engine if any sort of hit occurs in the motor area. This doesnt happend so easily and quickly on any planes ive flown excepet the 190 and P38.

HTC please look ino it, its a real issue in your sim.

hazed- · « **Reply #23 on:** July 02, 2001, 02:01:00 PM »

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Pongo · « **Reply #24 on:** July 02, 2001, 03:36:00 PM »

I was amazed while doing field suppression with a 190a8 that I took 2 hits from ack while killing ack and never even had a red damage indicator.
I commented on it at the time to my squadies and they were also of the opinion it was a robust plane.
I dont think I had my hack running at that time so something is up.

Animal · « **Reply #25 on:** July 02, 2001, 03:43:00 PM »

I thought the 190D9 used an inline engine, different from what the 190A series used?

Shouldnt it be more vulnerable than those radials?

minus · « **Reply #26 on:** July 02, 2001, 05:10:00 PM »

hmmm are the oil temperature limit corect what ve have now in 190 ???????/

in spit the limit is 150 C hehe , hehehehehe

in AH mean real life dont think so

funkedup · « **Reply #27 on:** July 02, 2001, 05:37:00 PM »

Animal, you'd think the inline would be more vulnerable, yep.

The only thing (that I know of) that would make the BMW 801 more vulnerable than other radials would be the fuel system. It had direct fuel injection which meant there was a fuel line to each cylinder. Lots of fuel lines under the cowl meant lots of opportunities for bullets or fragments to cut the fuel lines. The Fw 190A engines really seem to go up like torches on a lot of gun camera film and I think that could be the reason.

As far as the oil, I don't think the lubrication system on the 801 was much different from other radials, because it was basically (IIRC) an enlarged version of a P&W engine that BMW had been manufacturing under license. The only real unique thing about the 801's lube system was the oil cooler installation in the cowl ring. But I don't know if that would be any more or less vulnerable than the oil cooler locations on other radial-engined planes.

[ 07-02-2001: Message edited by: funkedup ]

raven 8 · « **Reply #28 on:** July 08, 2001, 09:16:00 AM »

i hardly ever get hit in the engine. but when i get hit with aa fire on my way down, pretty much all planes loose an engine.

but i dunno. the p47 seems pretty hardy though, i got pinned about 10-15 time up the front from a lancaster(i blew him up) and all i got was an oil leak.

rav