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[Motherland]

Interesting! Thanks.

[Dago]

Penguin, you should stop talking in this thread, I am sorry but the reality is you don't have a clue about anything being discussed here.

[Shifty]

Part of the recoil of the Garand and the M14 is mitigated by the forward motion of the bolt as it returns to battery. Both riflles are also heavier than the standard bolt action hunting rifle and that help take some sting out of the recoil. I shot more than a 50 rounds from a Garand in one day and the recoil was far less noticeable than that from a Remington in .308 (7.62 nato or 7.62 x 51) with a nice recoil pad. The Garand had the normal steel recoil pad mounted.

+1

[Maverick]

Dago,

Once he stops trying to recover his weaponology cool, (that he doesn't have) he might actually learn something.

[Flipperk]

M1 Garand was good for its day but had three serious flaws.

1. You can't top up the clip after you shoot rounds out of it.

2. You must empty the clip of all eight rounds and eject the clip before you can reload.

3. When you fire the last round, the loud "PLING" noise the clip makes announces to the whole world that you're out of ammo!

This last one was actually used for the Americans...If you are out of ammo then the enemy would jump up and start shooting...well in WWII about 4 or 5 guys would purposly empty their clips and then the germans would think they were out of ammo...well to their surprise about 10 other guys would be waiting for them to jump up and shoot them!

[Vulcan]

This might interest you gents (though they are chinese clones): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cf6zKwuak0c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_eEW0WRi3g

[ariansworld]

I just bought a 308 enfield today for $200 at cabela's....... let me tell you somethng. I made off like a bandit because the thing is a tack driver.  It is a 1968 enfield a2.

[Dago]

Dago,

Once he stops trying to recover his weaponology cool, (that he doesn't have) he might actually learn something.

Maverick, you made a couple really good and informative posts, maybe you are helping him learn.   

[Widewing]

Part of the recoil of the Garand and the M14 is mitigated by the forward motion of the bolt as it returns to battery. Both riflles are also heavier than the standard bolt action hunting rifle and that help take some sting out of the recoil. I shot more than a 50 rounds from a Garand in one day and the recoil was far less noticeable than that from a Remington in .308 (7.62 nato or 7.62 x 51) with a nice recoil pad. The Garand had the normal steel recoil pad mounted.

Yes, the heavier rifles will eat more energy, reducing felt recoil. However, both the Garand and the M14 are gas operated. The gas system bleeds off some gas from the barrel to cycle the action. This also eats energy. They have "softer" systems, whereas the bolt action rifle transfers all of the energy right into the stock.

My regards,

Widewing

[Simba]

I learnt to shoot on the standard British Army Lee Enfield Mk.IV 0.303". Splendid weapon.

 

[EskimoJoe]

Disagree... I've fired several M14s as well as the CETME 58, H&K G3A3 and FN FAL. None of these kick as sharply as a bolt action shooting the same cartridge.

My regards,

Widewing

My older brother is in ARNG airborne, who has fired the FN FAL as well as a plethora of other weapons.. He said it was the loudest gun he's ever fired, I'm curious as to what your comments are on that statement?

[EskimoJoe]

I learnt to shoot on the standard British Army Lee Enfield Mk.IV 0.303". Splendid weapon.

 

I've never seen a lee Enfield with my own eyes, but from the pictures she sure is a beauty. I would love to shoot one sometime 

[JunkyII]

I have fired a M1 and a M14............Ill stick with my M4 and all the stuff you can put on it

The M4 I used here in the ROK had the M203 with a CCO, great weapon never had any problems with it and shot expert everytime

[Guppy35]

Shifty, is the M14 your son bought a Springfield M1A?  I had one for a bit.  I was surprised how heavy the thing was.  Beautiful rifle, but I went back to the AR-15.

Is your Garand a new one or does it have some history to it?

[1pLUs44]

 


Damn! Mine (M1) and my dads (M14) dream guns.