Hey Grinch, not sure if ya remember, but I shot the crap out of an F4U at 8k...he was about as shot up as mtnmans F4 pic, dropped 7k, and outran both you(in a 38 I think), and I(In K4) to make it home and land kills. Im not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but I would think that missing even 1/3 of your wing would reduce your speed considerably.