Clarification

[Lazerr]

yeah junky.. sometimes I take that shot though too.. especially if I know someone is going to try to luftberry me..

[killert5]

Here is my take on the "Ho".  Whenever u encounter me at your 12o'clock blazing towards you with 20mm hispano cannons wide open, I have only one thought in my mind. "In this particular model of airplane guns face forward, if you dont want to get shot, dont fly towards me."  Durring WW2 headon passes were the most common form of engagments.  Now if u want to turn fight then fine, in the FM2 or Zero, or even N1K we can turn fight all day.  Ho are not that big of a deal.  I never understood why people feel they are.  Game is fun no matter how I die.

[JunkyII]

Here is my take on the "Ho".  Whenever u encounter me at your 12o'clock blazing towards you with 20mm hispano cannons wide open, I have only one thought in my mind. "In this particular model of airplane guns face forward, if you dont want to get shot, dont fly towards me."  Durring WW2 headon passes were the most common form of engagments.  Now if u want to turn fight then fine, in the FM2 or Zero, or even N1K we can turn fight all day.  Ho are not that big of a deal.  I never understood why people feel they are.  Game is fun no matter how I die.

HO is taking the easy way out in a fight, why do that in a game? A game is best if its a challenge not if its easy like all the flights sims on xbox and Ps3

[trax1]

You know I've found a fairly good way to avoid the HO, I will never HO another pilot, theres just no fun in that kind of kill and isn't that why we all play?  So anyways when the other guy is coming at me and is about 500 or so out in front I start to go vertical into a immelman, now you can't do it to early or your gonna give him a clean shot at your belly, but after doing it for sometime you'll just get an instinct on when to start, I've found about 95% of the time if he is gonna try to HO, this maneuver avoids it, and I will usually end up after I complete a loop in a better position on him for the kill.

[JunkyII]

You know I've found a fairly good way to avoid the HO, I will never HO another pilot, theres just no fun in that kind of kill and isn't that why we all play?  So anyways when the other guy is coming at me and is about 500 or so out in front I start to go vertical into a immelman, now you can't do it to early or your gonna give him a clean shot at your belly, but after doing it for sometime you'll just get an instinct on when to start, I've found about 95% of the time if he is gonna try to HO, this maneuver avoids it, and I will usually end up after I complete a loop in a better position on him for the kill.

You shouldnt go up in front of him, go below before you get to him then pull up underneath him. A negative G sot is harder then the positive G shot your method gave him

[Saurdaukar]

99% HO... the other 1% lie

Disagree.

[trax1]

You shouldnt go up in front of him, go below before you get to him then pull up underneath him. A negative G sot is harder then the positive G shot your method gave him

Thanks for the tip, I'll have to give it a try.

[Ghastly]

You shouldnt go up in front of him, go below before you get to him then pull up underneath him. A negative G sot is harder then the positive G shot your method gave him

Exactly. Add in a little horizontal seperation too, and you can often gain 30-60 ' of angles on him while he's trying to HO you - and if you pull too early, he has a harder shot.

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[R 105]

I like to call the HO a John Wayne merge, face to face guns blazing. I see nothing wrong with it. I do a lot of ords porking in the P-51D. Guys up LA7s or 109ks to chase me. If they start to catch up I will turn and HO. Few people can use the Ks big gun anyway. I can start firing at 1000 out and break at 600. 9 times out of 10 I get the oil or the motor out right with no damage to the 51. It is fast enough to stay out of the way until the other guys motor stops. I fly back re arm and it is off for more ords. However a dead on HO at the LA or any cannon bird is a risk. Fire from a bit of angle and if you miss don't turn just stay fast and make them turn and come after you. Many of the cannon birds don't have a lot of fuel and can only chase you so far. If dog fighting is what you want then this type of tactic is not for you. I GV and if I am flying to get your ords it is because some bomb**** dropped on my tank. This is my way of suspending your ords allotment. Yes you can resupply that base but if you are driving an M-3 with supplies you ain't bombing me.

[froger]

never fails.... the guy had some humble, simple thoughts about game play and all the usual so called vets jumped in
to have a ( whos got the bigger stick ) contest.

another wasted 10 minutes my life will never get back.