VMF 223 "Bulldogs"

[Shamrock]

hey guys...see im new at skinning and im probably gona get some heat for this....but if someone would make the "Bulldogs" skin that would be awesome....i have a pic of my grandpas corsair in my room....ill post some for u skinners to see and hopefully add to the corsairs skns...thankyou. Also, i just now found out that VMF 223 flew F4F wildacts and Brewster Buffalos. And the SBD dauntless...okay well i couldnt find any "decent" pics of the planes but the patch is the nose art for the squad....the colors are....Dark, DARK black the letters on the vertical stab/rudder are...WP and
the white star on the blue thing that says MARINES behind it....and a 68 infront of that thanks...

][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VMF-223[/url]

[5PointOh]

Without pictures its very difficult to skin....

[lyric1]

You mentioned you have a picture of your grandfathers plane right? Post it I am sure when it comes to an AHII player having a relative flying an aircraft that is in the game some one will do it for you.

[Shamrock]

hey guys...see im new at skinning and im probably gona get some heat for this....but if someone would make the "Bulldogs" skin that would be awesome....i have a pic of my grandpas corsair in my room....ill post some for u skinners to see and hopefully add to the corsairs skns...thankyou. Also, i just now found out that VMF 223 flew F4F wildacts and Brewster Buffalos. And the SBD dauntless...okay well i couldnt find any "decent" pics of the planes but the patch is the nose art for the squad....the colors are....Dark, DARK black the letters on the vertical stab/rudder are...WP and
the white star on the blue thing that says MARINES behind it....and a 68 infront of that thanks...

[url]]][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VMF-223[/url]

ok...i have ONE pic...now its very late WWII and its of a corsair...VMF 223 flew all corsairs and all F4F models...im positive the F4F version is the default of the one now exept that it has a bulldog patch on the nose...this corsair is a -4 https://www.magellanmodels.com/repository/product/essn003.jpg

[Spikes]

Can't skin something from a model...need accurate pics from the war...also that kind of looks like a post war skin, but I can't tell the difference.

[TwinBoom]

ok...i have ONE pic...now its very late WWII and its of a corsair...VMF 223 flew all corsairs and all F4F models...im positive the F4F version is the default of the one now exept that it has a bulldog patch on the nose...this corsair is a -4 https://www.magellanmodels.com/repository/product/essn003.jpg

see the red stripe in the bands on the star that is a post war skin

[Shamrock]

see the red stripe in the bands on the star that is a post war skin

look if u dont believe me that its a WW2 skin then my grandpas WW2 Corsair wich is the EXACT skin as that...is a fake! the squad began in 1943 that is the EXACT skin that VMF 223 used on there -4's

[lyric1]

look if u dont believe me that its a WW2 skin then my grandpas WW2 Corsair wich is the EXACT skin as that...is a fake! the squad began in 1943 that is the EXACT skin that VMF 223 used on there -4's

No one has accused you of being fake. Just that it takes a long time to skin stuff from scratch & then it has to be approved by the staff that hosts the game & if they can't verify that it is legit the skin wont be accepted. Then guess what all that work the skinner did was for nothing. You have the pic on the wall simply get it down & go from there.

[Krusty]

Shamrock, you may simply look at it, see a blue plane, and say "it's the same" -- but the skinners in the AH community spot the little things you may not.

The model plane you posted a link to is a post-war paint scheme. There are many subtle clues to this. Sure, there may be a WW2 paint scheme that is similar, but it's not the same.

For example, here is a VMF-222 F4U-4 on (I think) Okinawa, same time as VMF-223 had theirs and the same place.



Subtle differences include the type of stars and bars, the colors (note the lighter shades under the plane), the plane markings themselves (no boxing dog emblem, no "US MARINES" on the tail).

As skinners, we are looking for info or references on WW2-era planes, rather than post-war. Any help you can provide will only make your skin request that much more interesting to a potential skinner.

[TwinBoom]

look if u dont believe me that its a WW2 skin then my grandpas WW2 Corsair wich is the EXACT skin as that...is a fake! the squad began in 1943 that is the EXACT skin that VMF 223 used on there -4's

not saying i dont believe you its just that the pic u provided is post war meaning its a paint sceme after ww2

heres another 223 f4u

Marion Carl, now a major and commanding his old squadron, VMF-223, made his 17th kill in December 1943, when he shot down a Japanese Tony over Rabaul. Carl was escorting Marine PBJ (B-25) bombers in his F4U-1 Corsair when the enemy fighter jumped the raiders. The victory was Carl's next-to-last score.

[Fencer51]

Subtle differences include the type of stars and bars, the colors (note the lighter shades under the plane), the plane markings themselves (no boxing dog emblem, no "US MARINES" on the tail).

Nice photo Krusty.  FYI I believe that "lighter shade" is actually exhaust staining/dirt.

[lyric1]

Nice photo Krusty.  FYI I believe that "lighter shade" is actually exhaust staining/dirt.

I have this photo as well only the second plane is complete. I passed it on to a skinner some time back. The plane in the back ground if your referring to that is another shade. To the best of my memory.

[Shamrock]

Shamrock, you may simply look at it, see a blue plane, and say "it's the same" -- but the skinners in the AH community spot the little things you may not.

The model plane you posted a link to is a post-war paint scheme. There are many subtle clues to this. Sure, there may be a WW2 paint scheme that is similar, but it's not the same.

For example, here is a VMF-222 F4U-4 on (I think) Okinawa, same time as VMF-223 had theirs and the same place.

(Image removed from quote.)

Subtle differences include the type of stars and bars, the colors (note the lighter shades under the plane), the plane markings themselves (no boxing dog emblem, no "US MARINES" on the tail).

As skinners, we are looking for info or references on WW2-era planes, rather than post-war. Any help you can provide will only make your skin request that much more interesting to a potential skinner.

okay #1 how did u find that pic? # 2 now im not a skinner so excuse my incapability to spot the "little" things # that was the pic i was looking for...not the exact one but...man i was looking for it

[Shamrock]

not saying i dont believe you its just that the pic u provided is post war meaning its a paint sceme after ww2

heres another 223 f4u
(Image removed from quote.)
Marion Carl, now a major and commanding his old squadron, VMF-223, made his 17th kill in December 1943, when he shot down a Japanese Tony over Rabaul. Carl was escorting Marine PBJ (B-25) bombers in his F4U-1 Corsair when the enemy fighter jumped the raiders. The victory was Carl's next-to-last score.

yea i saw this pic and thought...nooo it doesnt describe the skin as well

[lyric1]

I have this photo as well only the second plane is complete. I passed it on to a skinner some time back. The plane in the back ground if your referring to that is another shade. To the best of my memory.

No I was wrong.

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