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Offline Krusty

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Re: Ki-44, Ki-100, KI-102, por favor...
« Reply #15 on: February 08, 2010, 03:55:15 PM »
Historical accuracy and "bombers" do not go together in this game. It's a total laugh.

As for the Ki-100, it's a Ki-61. Same guns, same basic performance (slight difference in the power curves because of the radial engine) but more draggy radial engine.

THe only reason it was made was because they had airframes and no engines. They stuck a radial in, found it easier to maintian, more reliable, but had no better performance than the Ki-61.

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Re: Ki-44, Ki-100, KI-102, por favor...
« Reply #16 on: February 08, 2010, 04:25:18 PM »
Historical accuracy and "bombers" do not go together in this game. It's a total laugh.

There isn't a real lot of historical accuracy in this "game".

And anyone who expects it is a total laugh. :salute
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Re: Ki-44, Ki-100, KI-102, por favor...
« Reply #17 on: February 08, 2010, 04:49:58 PM »
You misunderstand me. The planes in this game perform their tasks historically, and their performances match what they could do in WW2, EXCEPT the laughable super-speed bombers, with laser-accurate guns, and 35k-alt performance.

You may have issues with "spits vs spits" action, which isn't historical, but the spits themselves are modeled (mostly) accurate. I have issues with certain parts of the flight models, but gameplay aside, the fighters themselves are well made.

It's the bomber system that's a joke.

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Re: Ki-44, Ki-100, KI-102, por favor...
« Reply #18 on: February 08, 2010, 05:06:17 PM »
with laser-accurate guns

Yeah, it bugs me sometimes how accurate you can fire the 50cal machine guns with next to no recoil etc
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Re: Ki-44, Ki-100, KI-102, por favor...
« Reply #19 on: February 08, 2010, 05:37:41 PM »
Yeah, it bugs me sometimes how accurate you can fire the 50cal machine guns with next to no recoil etc

I just plain suck on gunning in bombers.  Heck, i suck in the whole game. 
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Re: Ki-44, Ki-100, KI-102, por favor...
« Reply #20 on: February 08, 2010, 05:39:18 PM »
It wasn't my intention to hijack the thread.

There are many japanese planes I'd like to see in-game. Some because they are needed, and some because "it would be fun" to fly them.

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Re: Ki-44, Ki-100, KI-102, por favor...
« Reply #21 on: February 08, 2010, 08:56:46 PM »
I would prefer the Ki-43, G4M, Ki-21, and the Ki-44. But any Japanese planes would be great, esp for the special events.

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Re: Ki-44, Ki-100, KI-102, por favor...
« Reply #22 on: February 09, 2010, 01:02:15 AM »
I would prefer the Ki-43, G4M, Ki-21, and the Ki-44. But any Japanese planes would be great, esp for the special events.

I am fully confidence that the AH staff have these on the drawing bored along with other countries A/C, Vehicle, maps, and ships.
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Re: Ki-44, Ki-100, KI-102, por favor...
« Reply #23 on: February 09, 2010, 06:39:46 AM »
Historical accuracy and "bombers" do not go together in this game. It's a total laugh.

As for the Ki-100, it's a Ki-61. Same guns, same basic performance (slight difference in the power curves because of the radial engine) but more draggy radial engine.

THe only reason it was made was because they had airframes and no engines. They stuck a radial in, found it easier to maintian, more reliable, but had no better performance than the Ki-61.

Yes, basically true per the sources I see... They went over to a Mitsu radial married to the old airframe and, indeed, even called it a Ki-61-II by some accounts, yet, the descriptions you'll see in, for example, Angelucci/Matricardi or http://www.aviastar.org/air/japan/ will describe the Ki-100 as something like the "best" while bemoaning the Ki-61. This latter is reasonable, given the reliability issues around the HA140 but the former puzzles me - I see little compelling reason for the glowing revues of the KI-100 - especially given its mediocre top end. OTOH, it is quite lightweight for the period and for its wing area (looks like lower wingloading heavy than Tony). That coupled with the draggy speed-depressing radial, probably make for a sweet handler.

Of course, none of this means I don't want it for the planeset. MORE IS BETTER, EVEN IF MORE is the TBD Devastator.

Anyway, that's my,  "opinion in anal retentiveness" (source/fact-based opinion to all but the sloppy). Accuracy counts and, from what I can see, neither were HE100-based and both are intriguing designs.
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Re: Ki-44, Ki-100, KI-102, por favor...
« Reply #24 on: February 09, 2010, 10:32:46 AM »
I would prefer the Ki-43, G4M, Ki-21, and the Ki-44. But any Japanese planes would be great, esp for the special events.
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Re: Ki-44, Ki-100, KI-102, por favor...
« Reply #25 on: February 09, 2010, 10:36:49 AM »
Second this post.  Add the Ki-27 for AVG bait. 

Ever heard John Wayne say "Nakajima?"

I expect the first "a" sounds just like the "a" sounds when he says "Vietnam".
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« Reply #26 on: February 09, 2010, 11:00:11 AM »
I expect the first "a" sounds just like the "a" sounds when he says "Vietnam".
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Re: Ki-44, Ki-100, KI-102, por favor...
« Reply #27 on: February 09, 2010, 11:11:55 AM »
John Wayne starred in "The Flying Tigers" in 1942.  Good, shameless propaganda.  A guilty pleasure.

Yes - saw it... And, indeed, his pronunciation didn't change b/w that and "The Green Berets" in 1968.

That was good, shameless propaganda... from back in the days when we killed Communists rather than elect them.

What? Did I say that? I have no idea what I mean by such a thing.
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Re: Ki-44, Ki-100, KI-102, por favor...
« Reply #28 on: February 09, 2010, 11:50:32 AM »
See rules #2, #4, #14
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Re: Ki-44, Ki-100, KI-102, por favor...
« Reply #29 on: February 09, 2010, 12:16:43 PM »
Gee...it's just amazing how a thread on Japanese fighters turns into a political thread, which I'm sure will turn into a mud slinging thread quite soon.


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