1 second frame freezes or stutter

[denniswilha]

Bad news I'm still getting frame freezes, I have been reading alot on video cards, and I read that stutters or freezes can accur with 128 bit cards. I have a Nvidea GTS250 1gig.  Cannot find anything on the bits, LOL could this be the problem. all the Nvidea settings are default and the settings in the game are maxed out, except for the shadows {don't care for them}. My other system I had ran a GTX280 1gig, and I never had the freezes with it. Just wondering if its possibly the card not able to handle everything on max?

[gyrene81]

You had a 280GTX and you went to a 250GTS?  What did you do with the 280? That's a better card.

What brand of 250 do you have?

I have this one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150357&cm_re=250gts-_-14-150-357-_-Product

And on my system, I don't have all options turned on...especially shadowing and I'm only running 512 textures.

[denniswilha]

This is my gts 250 its by MSi with the twin frozr cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127478&Tpk=MSI%20GTX250

My 280GTX is in my other dual core machine and has no glitches. I figured the cards were close to the same and I could run everything the same on this machine. I run the hi-res pack on 1024 texture setting. I keep shadows turned off. Detailed terrain and bump terrain on. I have disabled these and still get the freezes shutters studders.
This is my GTX280
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127360
it is 512 bit and the 250 shows to 256 bit, I tried swapping them out and it ran the game for about 5 minutes and the whole PC rebooted, the only difference was the 230 used one pci power cord and the 280 used 2 pci cords, I plugged them in and everything powers up fine and the pc will stay on and work fine till i run the game, it runs for about 5 minutes and blam systems shuts down and reboots. seems like a power issue but i have a 750watt power supply.
I'm running version 6 bios, isn't there a power setting i should adjust in there? Or does anyone have any suggestions?

[gyrene81]

   You need minimum of 40 amps on your PCI-E (+12v) connection for the 280...
I'm pretty sure the 250 only requires 24-28 amps on the +12v circuit...

Might want to check the PSU in the new system. I have a Thermaltake 700w modular and it's only putting out 18 amps per +12v leg.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153039


That 250 won't handle the 1024 textures and hi res pack at native resolution for some reason...although by all rights it should...I've tried it.

[Buzzard7]

That 750 watt PSU may not have enough 12v amperage to run all the 12v devices.
Most of the GTX series cards require 650 watt PSU with combined 12v amperage of 36-42 amps.

[denniswilha]

sounds like I'll be getting a beter PSU and installing the 280, I want to run the hig res pack. Thanks

[Buzzard7]

The Corsair TX650 should run that GTX280. How many drives do you run?
The TX650 provides 52amps at 624watts and is certifies 80 plus.

http://www.corsair.com/products/tx/default.aspx

Cost me 107 bucks with tax at BestBuy.

[Pudgie]

Hadn't noticed this posted yet.

If Win7 has the Aero-type interface then turning this off (at least while you're gaming) could free up approx 25% of your VC's memory (frame buffers) that wouldn't be available to your game if Aero was left on in the background.

I could see this being more of an issue w/ the GTS250 than the GTX280 but can be an issue regardless.

Hope this helps.

[denniswilha]

To turn of Aero all I do is pick a standard background correct?

[MrRiplEy[H]]

Aero turns off automatically when a 3D application is started full screen.

[Pudgie]

Aero turns off automatically when a 3D application is started full screen.

If that is true, then please explain why when using EVGA Precision 1.9.1 (which tracks % video mem usage) in the background continues to show my VC's mem usage at 49%-53% when Aero is enabled AND I'm running AHII in full screen mode vs 21%-24% usage when Aero is disabled running under identical conditions. Then when I exit the game (no 3d app/game running) Precision still shows the % VC mem usage discreptancy as it did in previous example?

Now tis not to say that Aero is/isn't "hibernating" when 3d apps run in full screen mode but tis does say that Aero doesn't "release" VC mem that it has addressed unless Aero is actually turned off.


Anything that causes a reduction in the amount of mem available to be used as a frame buffer can be a culprit in causing stutters.

Not being combative here, just stating evidence that can be reproduced.

Hope this helps.

 

EDIT: This can be tested w/ Precision. It's for Nvidia video cards.

[MrRiplEy[H]]

If that is true, then please explain why when using EVGA Precision 1.9.1 (which tracks % video mem usage) in the background continues to show my VC's mem usage at 49%-53% when Aero is enabled AND I'm running AHII in full screen mode vs 21%-24% usage when Aero is disabled running under identical conditions. Then when I exit the game (no 3d app/game running) Precision still shows the % VC mem usage discreptancy as it did in previous example?

Now tis not to say that Aero is/isn't "hibernating" when 3d apps run in full screen mode but tis does say that Aero doesn't "release" VC mem that it has addressed unless Aero is actually turned off.


Anything that causes a reduction in the amount of mem available to be used as a frame buffer can be a culprit in causing stutters.

Not being combative here, just stating evidence that can be reproduced.

Hope this helps.

 

EDIT: This can be tested w/ Precision. It's for Nvidia video cards.

Better ask Microsoft as this information is from them.

[denniswilha]

I will be attempting to change out the power suplies in each system as i do beleive the one i am using does not have enough amps to run the GTX280 card. I will post the results after its done and let everyone know the performance difference and if the freezing stops!!!!   Thanks again guys I appreciate everyones ideas and thoughts.

[Skuzzy]

Actually, what happens when you have Aero running and DX needs to run, then Aero is supended, but it keeps all of its resources locked in memory so it can quickly restart when the DX app terminates.

So, it is not running, but it is not cleanly terminated either.

[denniswilha]

OK I replaced my PSU with a 650watt, replaced the 750watt, the 650 has more amps, and installed the GTX280 card. The game has been running and playing with no freezes for over an hour now. I guess the Video card can not handle the Matrox TripleHead2Go with 3 monitors. I have installed the 750 PSU and the GTS250 card in my other machine and it plays the game fine on a single monitor. I guess this resolves my issue on freezes. i will continue to leave game running throughout the day and will play time to time untill this afternoon, then I will give it  a true workout.