You will find squads that do one or another.
Many many squads do both,i could name some besides the 327Th but I'm to sleepy tonight. 
Sunka, this reads like you are saying that your squad does both of the things you frown upon. Or were you so sleepy you meant the opposite and either you missunderstood oakranger's comment or I did<<<coffee still making.
At this point I either salute your honesty or you squad's honer of FSO's intent. Just not sure which yet
