Best part of AH was...

[Lusche]

Your wrong about the landgrab part, taking a base a few years back insured a night long fight for just one base, back then people didnt really care about Score, K/D ratio, Today you can still have a heck of a battle at a base if people werent so worried about hurting there scores if they die to much,

How many years ago? Surely not five, because it was almost the same as it is now. We had runners, socreboys, sneaking NOE landgrabbers and all the complaints about them.
"Nobody fights anymore" was one of the first things I read when i joined the game. I was told "All the good guys are long gone". Read the BBS stuff of 2003, 2004, 2005... same complaints.

I'm afraid many of you are just idealizing the past. It's the same as "Today's music is crap, back when I was young, there was some REAL music and talent around". My dad was getting told that stuff when he was young, so was I in the 70's and 80's, and I read the same stuff by my generation today.

[kilo2]

The glass is always half empty for some people.

"The tendency to whining and complaining may be taken as the surest sign/symptom of little souls and inferior intellects".
Lord Jeffrey

[rvflyer]

As you said you haven't been around as long as us. I know you all WON'T believe this but people in the old days flew with a bit of "honor" for a lack of a better word.

 

I guess I am not from the old days but have been here since 2004. I do not see one bit of difference in how the players play this game.  One of the very first base captures I was in on was a large
hoard much like they are today at times. I was hoed so many times that I finally thought will this is the way the game is played, same as today. If you don't go evasive on the merge you were and are going to get
a face full of lead then and today. I remember flying over a nme base and seeing furballs that will match anything there is today because of the one map arena. It is all the same nothings changed only players
perception of how the good old days were. I remember one time when I was a new newb  just getting reamed by a player because i could not kill a M3 in town, not much honor there.

Same old rants about ho's, collisions, cheaters, rammers, bomber bailers, pickers, campers vulchers, squeakers, etc.  then and now.

I guess Fugitive you memory of history of this game is much different than mine.

[Tom5572]

I fall into the newer players.  I started playing this game in Jan of 2007.  For the first six months I did not know better to not ho.  Over time I have worked my butt off to avoid the Ho passes.  I learned going for the Ho was one of the best ways to put yourself at a disadvantage for the rest of the fight.  Instead of preparing or reacting for the next move, one cranks the rudder in hope of getting that golden bb in the cockpit.  Meanwhile I am already climbing for position. 
     The "Hoards" have been going on.  I kind of like challenging myself, going against them.  I get frustrated when I get killed by five or six players but then I think, hey, they needed six of 'em to kill me .  They must see me  as a real threat.  It helps me to get over it fairly quickly. 

[Steve]

Back in the good old days, when a handful of cons happened upon a single con, the first guy there was "in" and we'd let them fight it out, 1v1. Some squads didn't do this, but squads I associated with did.

Nowadays, I'm a dinosaur, when I see a 1v1, I'll ask my involved teammate is he needs help or prefers the 1v1. I'm old.  I know this becuase the current MA behavior is to just jump the guy with the whole gang.

Last night I got bounced by  a guy... think his name was GMC31st... something like that. He shot me down before I could get my headset on. *drats!*    
 I returned to the fight and broke him down to the point he started running and his friends died.  Undamaged, he beelined to his closest base, a V base over a sector away. I could tell by the dar that he was vectoring help to his location. Alone I chased his tiffie all the way, until he was just outside his ack. By now he had pulled 2.5 ahead of me.  As his 2 friends arrived overhead, and just at the edge of the Vbase, GMC31st reversed and headed towards me.   Of course, he tried to HO me. I quickly reversed him and put a couple of bullets into his plane. Of course, he then ran straight to ack, his friends not quite close enough to help him. I killed him in the ack, taking some hits and getting slow in the process.  Of course, both his friends then bounced me, neither having the stomach for fighting a low, slow and damaged pony. The old days weren't perfect, but they were way better than this.

[DrDea]

I remember one fight where there was 3 or 4 of us this 1 lone 38 in one of those valleys on the Mindeao map. I know I died at least twice before the 38 died once, I'm not sure how many times the others died but that 38 racked up 6-8 kills to his one death. It was a great fight and we all...including the bogie, chatted about it for 20 minutes after words.

I remember that guy.Was riverofdeath.Jebus he could fly that 38.

[Grind]

What ruined it was when the 8-player "freeloaders" joined the MA.... thats what ruined it I tell ya....  

How do wolves hunt?  Sharks etc...  Get a wing man or two and cover one anothers butts.... or fly to the huge red darbar alone at low alt....  Its all about choices.  As for the runners....why even play the game?

[SPKmes]

just fly of peak (U.S)....you get some of that but the majority is good fun fighting....

[truss51]

Hey Tools. I have to agree, I miss the same thibgs. Way to much hording, way to much HOing, way to much ganging a single con. Jayro pointed out my SA must be bad if I always get hoed and ganged. I don't think so. Many a fight starts out as 1 vs 1 but ends with 4 guys trying to HO you to get the kill before the rest of the gang gets you. No respect given for those in the fight.

I find myself flying less each month, the wife is getting pissed I'm under foot all the time! Maybe the fun will come back, or maybe I'll just practice the HO and concentrate on getting kills instead of getting fights.

QFT 

[texastc316]

"The tendency to whining and complaining may be taken as the surest sign/symptom of little souls and inferior intellects".
Lord Jeffrey

oooh Im saving that one!!

[stodd]

I blame Karaya!

[Simba]

Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.

 

[Lusche]

Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.

 

[curry1]

I especially miss the competition end of it. Fighting till your dead , dead, dead instead of running like a puss made me better.

I don't understand when you dive a p51 and hit his oil and hes 2+ sectors away from his closest base he still runs which ends up with him out of oil and i get the kill.  When he could reverse on me and perhaps beat me even though i will probably have the better position.  Seems like people would rather 100% time die then fight and have maybe 60% chance of dying it really makes no since.

[L0nGb0w]

I don't understand when you dive a p51 and hit his oil and hes 2+ sectors away from his closest base he still runs which ends up with him out of oil and i get the kill.  When he could reverse on me and perhaps beat me even though i will probably have the better position.  Seems like people would rather 100% time die then fight and have maybe 60% chance of dying it really makes no since.

It's sometimes an attempt to turn it around and make you the dweeb to chase em for 2 sectors.    I don't understand either so don't bother lol.  I agree some of the time the fight is not much fun, people run from clean 1v1s, even when their ride is superior, only to turn around and come back when you try to head to a different fight.  I just wing up with 1 or 2 squaddies and skirt the edge of a fight, we give a clean 1v1 to anyone who flies out alone.