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Offline Kurtank

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Re: Make a semi-hangar queen into a popular aircraft...
« Reply #30 on: February 26, 2010, 04:26:34 PM »
Hangar queen?

Not even in LW, man. At least not for the Rooks, anyway..... :rock
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Re: Make a semi-hangar queen into a popular aircraft...
« Reply #31 on: February 28, 2010, 09:14:43 PM »
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The only hangar queens in the Late war arenas are the Japanese bombers SBDs and Bostons.  Very rarely are they used unless a mission involving many protective fighters.  Too many fast fighters with cannons out there to pick them off.

The B-25's are used all the time.

You need to spend nore time in the MA's and actually pay attention.
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Re: Make a semi-hangar queen into a popular aircraft...
« Reply #32 on: February 28, 2010, 09:43:48 PM »
Maybe we should define the term "hangar-queen" first...  :)

BTW, the 5 planes at the bottom in usage (kills+deaths) are
77. B5N
78. 109E
79. C.202
80. BF 110C
81. D3A

The B-25H is #27 just ahead of the F4U-C, B-26B, 109G-14 and Mossie.
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Re: Make a semi-hangar queen into a popular aircraft...
« Reply #33 on: March 01, 2010, 10:22:35 PM »
Just to show B25 use in MW, where it is not a hangar queen by any means:

Plane:       Kills:   Deaths:   K/D:

B-25H       369     569        0.65
Il-2           382     367       1.04
Wirbelwind 1572     891      1.76

Wirbelwind is responsible for 89 of the B-25H deaths (5.662% of WW kills/15.614% of deaths of B-25).  84 for the IL-2 (5.344% of WW kills/22.8885% of deaths for IL-2).  B-25 kills on Wirbel accounts for 7% of the total B-25H kills. Doesn't look like Wirbel has hindered it's use for MW much.
Top 4 killers (not including gunner) in MW are: Panzer (1997), WW (1572), Spitfire Mrk IX (1165), F6F-5 (1130).  B-25 ranks at #20 in kills, Il-2 is #19 of 70.  Il-2 doesn't quite dominate as the GV killing king in MW, and the B-25 isn't far down the list of overall killers.
Lw B-25H has 2662 kills (#45) compared to IL-2s 9101 (#13) (~97 planes in LW)...not the best numbers for the 25, but like many other planes in LW it's not used because most want "The best" (not saying everyone does, but it's generally the truth), as seen the IL-2 is used more in LW, likely due to hitting decently and being able to hold its own; where as the 25H hits hard but can't hold well against planes.  I could call the A6m2 hangar queen and who would care, maybe 10 people, some planes just won't get much use in Lw.


As for the wish for AP rounds, if we can get them (if they meet inclusion needs)...I say let's get em sometime.  HE works wonders (kills anything it can hit), but anything to add to the B-25H is a wish I'll like. :)
not to burst bubbles but this isnt completely accurate. amount of people, preferences, use of late war aircraft. just cuz its #20 and #19 in midwar and #s 45 and #13 in latewar doesnt mean it should be there if other variables were added into your equation/theory
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