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Offline BigR

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Re: loss of control and shake
« Reply #30 on: March 14, 2010, 04:42:32 AM »
along a slightly different note, i had a strange thing happen the other night. Some guy blew off my tail in my p51 and i was still able to maneuver and fly. I actually reversed the fight on him and was able to kill him. The whole time my plane was shaking like crazy, but it was still controllable. Later on that night I was flying a P38..i got hit one time, and my controls completely locked up and then my plane just blew up and i was back in the tower. It was very odd though because the time between that ping and me blowing up was about 5 seconds. During that time i had absolutely no control of my plane, but the game wasn't frozen. I was just falling out of the sky. I usually film everything but that night i just forgot to.

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Re: loss of control and shake
« Reply #31 on: March 14, 2010, 09:00:33 AM »
I was in DA last night flying my F4U1A, at first I noticed a shake in the plane when I was slightly pulling up. The plane started to roll to the right and would not respond to my stick before I stopped pulling it back. I figured I had to calibrate my stick, so I did. But this happened several times after calibration. Sometimes it rolled right, sometimes it rolled left. But each time I was pulling the stick, not hard, just doing a smooth pull. And at the same time this accurred the plane was shaking.  Then I got killed by a single ping from a 51, my controls froze completely and I went to the ground.

On another sortie I merged with another F4u, with fairly good distance making it hard for him to ho. No other planes around either. Then after the merge, I got the other F4U about 2-300 behind me and climbing, my left wing suddenly came off and stick froze again just as I was half way in my climb..

This happened so many times I got frustrated and just left the DA, but still I got no film of it even I got the Auto Film on.. You see I got this bad habit of checking cancel in the message box asking if I want to save each film only to remember afterwards I really should have saved the film..  :uhoh
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Re: loss of control and shake
« Reply #32 on: March 14, 2010, 09:46:03 AM »
Happened last night in the LW Orange...190A8 only 2 things showed up on the damage list...aileron and cowl gun...no fire...controls locked up and plane went down in a left hand rolling dive. No film but I will start filming each sortie until the bug gets found.
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Re: loss of control and shake
« Reply #33 on: March 14, 2010, 12:56:36 PM »
Same for me last night..damage=cowl gun and pilot wound.   Result was immediate nose down attitude with shaking and no control.  Indicated airspeed was zero and true airspeed was 375.  Flew itself into the ground.  View was not blacked out at the time. :huh

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Re: loss of control and shake
« Reply #34 on: March 14, 2010, 12:57:44 PM »
My plane was Ta152

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Re: loss of control and shake
« Reply #35 on: March 14, 2010, 05:36:08 PM »
Also would it be possible if I can get 230 perks or so back in my bank, as that is how much the 262 cost when I had this happen to me. :)
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Re: loss of control and shake
« Reply #36 on: March 14, 2010, 06:33:20 PM »
I'm pretty sure that most complaints in here I'm reading can be explained that you were on fire and didnt know it.  Know when ur on fire the plane shakes and you lose total control.  The fire disappears immediately after you first get it and it take about 3 to 5 sec. before you break apart or blow up.  Some other complaints in here I'm not sure of besides about the tail missing, you have two horizontial stabalizers now instead of one, it use to be just one component. 
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Re: loss of control and shake
« Reply #37 on: March 14, 2010, 08:09:38 PM »
Here is a film of the issue.

http://pages.suddenlink.net/ja001son/AH2/somethingwrong.ahf

in a 51B cruising over an enemy base..

I take a single ack ping to the RIGHT WING..  damage list shows 1 gun damaged, no other damage,  yet I lose all input, no control of plane and it is shaking violently, then the LEFT WING (the undamaged on) falls completely off, then I catch fire, auger.

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had a similar instance in a DORA (no film)  took  a hit from a 51 as he passed head on,  damage list showed right elevator damaged, total loss of input, plane shuddering really bad.. then a few seconds later the propeller shreds.. and both landing gear fall off, other random things are damaged aswell..  fire.. auger..
« Last Edit: March 14, 2010, 08:12:04 PM by Wingnutt »

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Re: loss of control and shake
« Reply #38 on: March 14, 2010, 11:55:47 PM »
You were on fire look at the video, put on pan and move it back to the tail.  As you can see that one hit gave you what appears to be a gas leak and also you see the immediate fire before it goes away.  You see one puff of fire then every few sec. another puff until your wing falls off.  









Here is a film of the issue.

http://pages.suddenlink.net/ja001son/AH2/somethingwrong.ahf

in a 51B cruising over an enemy base..

I take a single ack ping to the RIGHT WING..  damage list shows 1 gun damaged, no other damage,  yet I lose all input, no control of plane and it is shaking violently, then the LEFT WING (the undamaged on) falls completely off, then I catch fire, auger.

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had a similar instance in a DORA (no film)  took  a hit from a 51 as he passed head on,  damage list showed right elevator damaged, total loss of input, plane shuddering really bad.. then a few seconds later the propeller shreds.. and both landing gear fall off, other random things are damaged aswell..  fire.. auger..
« Last Edit: March 14, 2010, 11:57:51 PM by TnDep »
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Re: loss of control and shake
« Reply #39 on: March 15, 2010, 12:04:12 AM »
You were on fire look at the video, put on pan and move it back to the tail.  As you can see that one hit gave you what appears to be a gas leak and also you see the immediate fire before it goes away.  You see one puff of fire then every few sec. another puff until your wing falls off.  










thats the strange thing, in the player there is the fire puff thing.. in the game there was NOTHING  just the damaged gun..   in game the fire didnt come till AFTER the wing fell off..

even if I did catch fire from the single ping ( I didnt) that doesent account for the total loss of all control of the aircraft, despite none of the control surfaces being damaged.

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Re: loss of control and shake
« Reply #40 on: March 15, 2010, 12:10:37 AM »
since the new update you catch fire very easily and when you are on fire you loss complete contol and your plane shakes.  Not sure if thats what they wanted for the update but that's what is happening. 
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Re: loss of control and shake
« Reply #41 on: March 15, 2010, 12:21:46 AM »
since the new update you catch fire very easily and when you are on fire you loss complete contol and your plane shakes.  Not sure if thats what they wanted for the update but that's what is happening.  

if this was done on purpose, and is going to stay like this, Im done.

But i HIGHLY doubt that is the case,  I think this is a flook and was not intended.

furthermore it makes no sense, when I was in the dora a 51b hit me a few times as he passed head on and took off an aileron.. thats it... no fire nothing, the plane started shaking violently, no control AT ALL.  then a few seconds later the prop broke... that makes no sense..  then the landing gear fell off.. both of them.. then auger..  no rhyme or reason



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Re: loss of control and shake
« Reply #42 on: March 15, 2010, 11:04:48 AM »
Makes me think there's an association between "plane is dead/pilotless" and some mistake where the pilot is still in the cockpit wondering why the plane is doing this.

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This is what i think also, it has happened to me a few times, always when I'm taking nme fire though. Anyone have this happen without taking any nme fire?

I also noticed it when shooting down an nme con. After getting a head shot the red icon seemed to still be there as the con spirals down for 2-3 secs.

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Re: loss of control and shake
« Reply #43 on: March 15, 2010, 12:29:45 PM »
Happened 3 times in a -152 to me.  Single ping in the wing, total loss of aircraft control.  Looked like I had bailed out, plane just turned over and rolled slowly to the ground, all three times.

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 No idea what or how this is happening, but I will not be back until it is rectified. 

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Re: loss of control and shake
« Reply #44 on: March 15, 2010, 12:41:57 PM »
along a slightly different note, i had a strange thing happen the other night. Some guy blew off my tail in my p51 and i was still able to maneuver and fly. I actually reversed the fight on him and was able to kill him. The whole time my plane was shaking like crazy, but it was still controllable. Later on that night I was flying a P38..i got hit one time, and my controls completely locked up and then my plane just blew up and i was back in the tower. It was very odd though because the time between that ping and me blowing up was about 5 seconds. During that time i had absolutely no control of my plane, but the game wasn't frozen. I was just falling out of the sky. I usually film everything but that night i just forgot to.
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