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Offline gyrene81

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Re: Pacific
« Reply #30 on: March 15, 2010, 01:14:05 PM »
It's HBO guys (may as well be the SS)...and since it's a first run on the series...freebie views are going to be non existent for a while...  :frown:
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Re: Pacific
« Reply #31 on: March 15, 2010, 01:19:13 PM »
Quote from: Saurdaukar on March 15, 2010, 12:44:38 PM

Qualitatively, its a matter of opinion, I suppose.  Although we might as well be chasing our tail discussing who was the "better man;" Hirohito or Hitler.


As a point of order, Hirohito wasn't exactly in control of his government at the time all this was occurring....
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Re: Pacific
« Reply #32 on: March 15, 2010, 01:38:39 PM »
Quote from: Saxman on March 15, 2010, 01:19:13 PM
As a point of order, Hirohito wasn't exactly in control of his government at the time all this was occurring....

Hirohito was basically under house arrest for the duration of the war.  Comparing him to Hitler misses the point entirely.
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Re: Pacific
« Reply #33 on: March 15, 2010, 03:49:56 PM »
    The emperor was far from innocent.
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Re: Pacific
« Reply #34 on: March 15, 2010, 04:04:11 PM »
Quote from: EskimoJoe on March 15, 2010, 01:03:25 PM
Does anyone know where I can stream the first episode online? My Step-dad doesn't have HBO here on the East Coast, I
didn't get to watch it  :(
If you have DirecTv their 101Network is showing 2 Band of Brothers documentaries followed by Episode 1 of The Pacific tonight.
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Re: Pacific
« Reply #35 on: March 15, 2010, 04:44:21 PM »
Quote from: gyrene81 on March 15, 2010, 01:14:05 PM
It's HBO guys (may as well be the SS)...and since it's a first run on the series...freebie views are going to be non existent for a while...  :frown:
Not true, found it on Comcast Fancast, so here you go the full first episode.

http://www.fancast.com/tv/The-Pacific/101664/1424689664/The-Pacific-Part-One-%28HBO%29/videos?cmpid=FCST_hp_xfinitytv
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Re: Pacific
« Reply #36 on: March 15, 2010, 04:55:15 PM »
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Re: Pacific
« Reply #37 on: March 15, 2010, 05:06:08 PM »
Quote from: FiLtH on March 15, 2010, 03:49:56 PM
    The emperor was far from innocent.

Innocence and culpability is very difficult to discern 70 years in the past.

  The fact that the Emperor in question was under a state of house arrest for the duration of the war is not, nor is it in question that he could do little to shape policy during the period in question, and that the militarists were in control of the direction of the country of Japan.

There are far more guilty parties to be found in Japan, 1935-1945, than its' Emperor.
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Re: Pacific
« Reply #38 on: March 15, 2010, 06:15:30 PM »
Quote from: Saurdaukar on March 15, 2010, 08:31:41 AM
The scene last night where the Marines were taking pot shots at the guy in the creek?  Did you feel an ounce of compassion for him?  I didn't.  More importantly; no matter how twittleed up that is; I think the point of that scene was to show that they didnt have much compassion for their own lives either.  Read: inhuman.

I saw that scene different, i think he was disgusted that his squad had failed their mission and the rest had died for the emperor and being a prisoner was unacceptable.
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Re: Pacific
« Reply #39 on: March 15, 2010, 06:31:17 PM »
Quote from: whiteman on March 15, 2010, 06:15:30 PM
I saw that scene different, i think he was disgusted that his squad had failed their mission and the rest had died for the emperor and being a prisoner was unacceptable.
I saw it like he was angry that he was there and it was basically for nothing.

It'd be nice if someone who understands Japanese could tell us what he was saying.
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Re: Pacific
« Reply #40 on: March 15, 2010, 07:09:16 PM »
It was he Emperor who overrode the Japanese military council in the process of surrender after the Nuclear bombings. Actually, the military council had decided to keep on fighting.
This was broadcasted on radio, where the emperor spoke. Ir was done successfully, but with some luck, since the council was ready to use force to stop it, and if I recall right, there was an armed conflict Jap vs Jap, at the emperor's palace.
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Re: Pacific
« Reply #41 on: March 15, 2010, 07:30:27 PM »
Quote from: trax1 on March 15, 2010, 06:31:17 PM
I saw it like he was angry that he was there and it was basically for nothing.

It'd be nice if someone who understands Japanese could tell us what he was saying.

I saw and understood it like he was upset he failed and the rest of his comrades were killed and he did not meet the same honorable fate.
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Re: Pacific
« Reply #42 on: March 15, 2010, 07:40:04 PM »
Quote from: Angus on March 15, 2010, 07:09:16 PM
It was he Emperor who overrode the Japanese military council in the process of surrender after the Nuclear bombings. Actually, the military council had decided to keep on fighting.
This was broadcasted on radio, where the emperor spoke. Ir was done successfully, but with some luck, since the council was ready to use force to stop it, and if I recall right, there was an armed conflict Jap vs Jap, at the emperor's palace.

Yeah I remember hearing about that coup attempt. History did a special about how it was partially thwarted by a B-29 raid.
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Re: Pacific
« Reply #43 on: March 15, 2010, 08:37:30 PM »
Quote from: gyrene81 on March 15, 2010, 01:14:05 PM
It's HBO guys (may as well be the SS)...and since it's a first run on the series...freebie views are going to be non existent for a while...  :frown:

Go to http://www.hbo.com/the-pacific/index.html

You can watch it there, but you must first register.


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Re: Pacific
« Reply #44 on: March 15, 2010, 09:11:01 PM »
Quote from: Nefarious on March 15, 2010, 07:30:27 PM
I saw and understood it like he was upset he failed and the rest of his comrades were killed and he did not meet the same honorable fate.
That's the way I saw it.
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