We need night fighters!!! A simple poll

[J_A_B]

"We can see at night just fine due to the magic icons, and we have an in-flight AWACS display which far exceeds any equipment in a WW2-vintage night fighter."


Who do you mean by "we"

I can't see those magic icons at night.  Hell, I can't even see the ground at night. Everything other than my cockpit instruments are TOTALLY BLACK.  

You have an in-flight AWACS display at night?  That's funny...I presume you mean the map.  MY map at night is a very dark green blob, which is useless for much of anything.


Not all of us are equally affected by night.  So saying what "we" have is misleading.

If night is here to stay, I would like some real nightfighters--that way I would at least know when an invisible plane (that can somehow see me) is closing in on me.

Night is BS currently.  Get rid of it, or fix it.

J_A_B

[Staga]

If you don't like night its okay.
Here's plenty of ppl who does. So keep your BS for yourself and log off when night comes.

[janneh]

Hey !
Where did Me-110 went ?
2x20mm and 2x30mm, all in nose, would make it great bomber buster. Dunno about night fighter version, tho. Anyone know what armament it had ? Those front-upward shooting things ?

[juzz]

Mosquito NF.XXX was simply the best prop nightfighter of WW2. No contest.

[J_A_B]

"So keep your BS for yourself and log off when night comes."


Somehow I don't think you'd say that if you were affected by it the same way I am,   ESPECIALLY if your playing time was as limited as mine.  Logging off due to night means no AH for that day, and decidedly worse enjoyment value per dollar.  

I have no problem with night itself; I just don't like how it totally ruins the game for some people (including me).  I was a bit rude earlier, but I have a hard time staying calm when people advocate something which totally ruins the game for some of us.

No night doesn't ruin the game for you; it's just one less feature.  Night DOES ruin the game for some of us.  That's why I say keep night (and the clouds) off until it's fixed.

Once night is fixed, then add some nightfighters and keep the night as long as you want  


J_A_B

[juzz]

J_A_B; have you tried adjusting your gamma settings? What video card have you got?

[csThor]

 

Originally posted by juzz:
Mosquito NF.XXX was simply the best prop nightfighter of WW2. No contest.

Don´t want to sound mean, but wasn´t the Ju88G running circles around the Mossie? And wasn´t the He219 running circles around Ju88G?  

[This message has been edited by csThor (edited 03-27-2001).]

[-tronski-]

The He219 was the better, however wasn't the NJG equipped with mostly Bf110's?

The mossie should've been a gimme in AH, but alas not yet..

 Tronsky

[Sturm]

219's were not a massed produced night fighter persay.  DO to Hitlers bungling, most NF units were 110's 88's 217's.  Of course we had a handful of 154's 410's FW's 109's as well to name a few other name brand planes.  ME-110 was poweerful but drastically slower then other NF's as well as the 217.  They had heavy armament, but nothing compared to the 219.  Which was faster, and had the first ejection seat installed in a AC.  Have your wooden mossie, I would take the 219 everytime.  If ya know what a HE-219 A/7 series is, then you also would know in this variant category is the mossie hunter    

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Sturm6 StaffelKapitän
JV44 Platzschutzstaffel
Airfield Defense Squadron

[R4M]

 

Originally posted by Sturm:
219's were not a massed produced night fighter persay.  DO to Hitlers bungling, most NF units were 110's 88's 217's.  Of course we had a handful of 154's 410's FW's 109's as well to name a few other name brand planes.  ME-110 was poweerful but drastically slower then other NF's as well as the 217.  They had heavy armament, but nothing compared to the 219.  Which was faster, and had the first ejection seat installed in a AC.  Have your wooden mossie, I would take the 219 everytime.  If ya know what a HE-219 A/7 series is, then you also would know in this variant category is the mossie hunter    

In fact it was not Hitler's fault, but Edhardt Milch's. Why, I dont know, but he was heavily biased against the Uhu even while the test pilots who flew it were absolutely enthusiastic about the plane.

Ju88 and Do217 nigh fighters were very good anti bomber platforms. However they were converted BOMBERS. Slow, underpowered and very very heavy.

The Me110 as a nightfighter was a good plane, but the Me410 was much much better as night fighter than the 110 (naturally).

The Ta154 was a monster in potence. However it was grounded because its problems with the adhesive "eating" the wood of the airframe, thus ending a very very proimising career.

The He219 was the best night fighter of WWII; simply was an awesome machine that only lacked one thing.

More numbers.

[Sturm]

Ah yes Edhardt Milch, but yet who was he trying to please?  From what I have read, the major AC producers/developers everything revolved around political power.  You must also look at the company building the 219 which fell out in disfavor for failed projects "He-177 need I say more".  Once it was proven this fighter was a godsend to its pilots who were crying out for more 219's, they soon realized the 219 had to be discontinued or "production drastically cut".  Reason being?  Guess who would be next.  The HE-219 had a 2-1 kill ratio, which considering the timeframe it flew in is incredible.  Another what if, had these been flying in 43 brits would have had second thoughts on bombing in 44 at night.  That is what I find fascinating, learning from the mistakes others make.  We always go thru our minds thinking what if this had happened instead of this.  My favorite one of all time is sending the Tirpitz out with the Bismarck, yes it was still going thru sea trials, but what better way to train a crew than with OJT.  

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JV44 Platzschutzstaffel
Airfield Defense Squadron

[Ripsnort]

 

[Sturm]

Ok rip what is it?  Chaff?  Stealth picture?  

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Sturm6 StaffelKapitän
JV44 Platzschutzstaffel
Airfield Defense Squadron

[Ripsnort]

Actual combat of P61's in the European theatre.  

[Sturm]

 

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Airfield Defense Squadron