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Offline -lynx-

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« Reply #15 on: October 19, 2001, 06:35:00 AM »
Grun - with all due respect, you can't compare penetration power achieved in tests to the actual field performance. RL T34 will most likely ricochet an AP round off it's sloping hull/turret while T-IV being bizarrely built at right angles all over will most likely swallow it. (RPG-7 shaped charge round will go through 300-450mm of steel plate but it does not mean that each grenade fired claims a tank...)

Panther is a different proposition altogether but since they haven't been "designed" yet... ;) Plus, how do you propose to model difference in optics quality? At the distance where this is noticeable all you get is 1-2 pixels for a target anyway :)

Tank damage models need to be re-done anyway - under no circumstances (save for really obscure stuff like an example above) 20 mm round can do any harm to a turret/hull. Tracks? Maybe. But to "blow-up" a tank with 50 cals or 20mm cannons is a joke :(

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« Reply #16 on: October 19, 2001, 06:51:00 AM »
If you have tried WW2OL you can see the differences in optics in computer game done nicely. Most obvious differences that can be done are:

Magnification and field of vision like real (lot of differences in various tanks).

Accuracy and ease to shoot different ranges and ease of range finding.

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« Reply #17 on: October 19, 2001, 10:16:00 AM »
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Originally posted by Sokolov:
PLEASE ADD SOME RUSSIAN TANKS LIKE the T-34/76 or the T-34/85....
Would be nice to see the IS-2 in AH too....

Please think about this !

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Id like to see the t34 and pershing II added.

whels

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« Reply #18 on: October 19, 2001, 03:01:00 PM »
Not to nitpick but....  ;)

In regards to the Yak-9T, the T stands for Tyazhelowooruzhenny or "heavily armed". It has nothing to do with "Tank".

True, the NS-37 37mm and the NS-45 45mm are the best anti-tank cannons that I can think of, but even those guns can only penetrate rear, deck/top, and side armor depending on the tank.

And FYI the majority of Yak-9T's, Yak-9K's, and Yak-9UT's were used mostly in an air to air role, and only marginally in an air to ground role.

The rest is urban legend class myth  :)

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« Reply #19 on: October 19, 2001, 03:05:00 PM »
I laughed when I first saw the thread.  I thought he was talking about the American trainer T34-C.   :D  (it's because I live near Navy training fields, and we see a lot of them.)

 
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« Reply #20 on: October 20, 2001, 08:07:00 AM »
Some Russian gun data:
 http://www.siemers.com/wwii/Russia/PenetrationTables.htm#762F34

When the T-34/76 first started arriving on the battlefields, it completly outmatched anything the germans had.
The T-34/85 did quite well against late war german tanks and saw service well beyond WW2.

More than 34.000 T-34/76's were build and around 18.000 T-34/85's, compared to around 6000 Panthers and 8000 PzIV's.
If any single weaponry of WW2 should be credited with 'winning the war', it should probably be the T-34.

Daff