Scarface play

[Rattler]

FUDGE YOU!  

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Yeah I saw this yesterday, I can't believe that parents let there kids do this play.

[MachFly]

 

I can't believe that parents let there kids do this play.

yeah

[AWwrgwy]

I found it somewhat disturbing also but why are we disturbed by the language more than the violence?

Same goes for the soon to be released movie Kick-Ass.  Everyone seemed to be up in arms about the Rad Band Trailer with a 12 year old girl cussing but no one seemed to notice her carving people up with a samurai sword.

On the other hand, the kid's school play could have been Julius Caesar or Romeo and Juliet.  Sex and violence.

 


wrongway

[4deck]

Holy Motherfudger. WTF

If this is our future. Were screwed.

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I found it somewhat disturbing also but why are we disturbed by the language more than the violence?

I was more disturbed by the violence then the language, I mean they were even using toy guns to shoot each other. 

Another thing I find disturbing is that these kids probably had to watch the movie Scarface, they were way too young to watch a movie like that.

[Soulyss]

Just for arguments sake, would opinions differ it they were performing something from Shakespeare? My girlfriend was helping teach Shakespeare to 5th or 6th graders a few years ago and they were doing plays like Hamlet and Macbeth which have tons of adult themes and material, yet are also considered some of the pillars of English theater and literature.

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Just for arguments sake, would opinions differ it they were performing something from Shakespeare? My girlfriend was helping teach Shakespeare to 5th or 6th graders a few years ago and they were doing plays like Hamlet and Macbeth which have tons of adult themes and material, yet are also considered some of the pillars of English theater and literature.

Are you really gonna compare Scarface to Shakespeare?  Those are at two totally opposite ends of the spectrum.

[Ruler2]

I was more disturbed by the violence then the language, I mean they were even using toy guns to shoot each other. 

I don't see anything wrong with playing with toy guns... Kids have done it forever and haven't got any heat until now.  Besides, what isn't fun about mowing down people with a modded nerf gun 
I have heard the excuse that people playing with toy guns leads them to commit crimes using real guns, but I HIGHLY doubt that as holding any substance whatsoever. The only sensible reason that kids go and commit crimes with the aid of a gun is due to bad parenting which CAN be proven and HAS been. Over time, there have been more and more bad parents setting bad examples for their children and not teaching them what is right and wrong. Violence is going to happen in life, so there is no use trying to hide it, otherwise kids will be smacked in the face when they come to reality.

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I don't see anything wrong with playing with toy guns... Kids have done it forever and haven't got any heat until now.  Besides, what isn't fun about mowing down people with a modded nerf gun 
I have heard the excuse that people playing with toy guns leads them to commit crimes using real guns, but I HIGHLY doubt that as holding any substance whatsoever. The only sensible reason that kids go and commit crimes with the aid of a gun is due to bad parenting which CAN be proven and HAS been. Over time, there have been more and more bad parents setting bad examples for their children and not teaching them what is right and wrong. Violence is going to happen in life, so there is no use trying to hide it, otherwise kids will be smacked in the face when they come to reality.

I didn't mean it like these kids shouldn't be playing with toy guns, I was basically saying that they were reenacting some of the bloody scenes in the movie & I just thought it was inappropriate for kids that young to be doing that. 

[Ruler2]

I didn't mean it like these kids shouldn't be playing with toy guns, I was basically saying that they were reenacting some of the bloody scenes in the movie & I just thought it was inappropriate for kids that young to be doing that. 

Oh. Yeah that makes perfect sense. These kids shouldn't be doing this, ESPECIALLY for a SCHOOL play. I've never seen scarface before myself, but from the looks of that play, I don't think I'm missing anything. I can't believe they had kids  that small cussing....

[Soulyss]

Are you really gonna compare Scarface to Shakespeare?  Those are at two totally opposite ends of the spectrum.

Not that different in some ways... MacBeth is full of blood,murder, a character is decapitated and his head brought out on stage.  Richard III has kids murdered in their sleep.  Hamlet?  His mother murders his father and then jumps in bed with his uncle, incest is implied in another scene.  

All in all many of his plays are chock full of violence, blood, and sex.  The same things that draw a crowd today did so back then.  Do I think they are the same? No, probably not but they are closer than a lot of people first realize.

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Still Scarface is in a league of it's own, you got drug kingpins, very gory scenes, like the chainsaw scene in the bathroom, and it basically glorifies drug dealers, either way it's extremely inappropriate for kids that age.

I mean I do see what your saying about those plays, but I still think Scarface is a lot more inappropriate then Shakespeare.

[Soulyss]

Still Scarface is in a league of it's own, you got drug kingpins, very gory scenes, like the chainsaw scene in the bathroom, and it basically glorifies drug dealers, either way it's extremely inappropriate for kids that age.

I mean I do see what your saying about those plays, but I still think Scarface is a lot more inappropriate then Shakespeare.

ohh... I almost forgot Titus Andronicus... which to be fair I haven't heard of a situation where elementary school children performing.

That play I think may be the most gruesome, one character is raped and mutilated (hands and tongue cut off) later in an act of vengeance the perpetrators are murdered and baked into a pie and served to their mother.

Ultimately I think I agree with most the folks here, I'm just really enjoying playing the devils advocate.