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funked

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Assymmetric Slat Deployment on Bf 109
« on: October 16, 2000, 03:32:00 PM »
If the pilot of a Bf 109 was not careful to maintain coordinated flight in a tight turn, the slats on one wing would pop out before the other wing, causing the plane to suddenly jerk in yaw and roll, ruining the pilot's gun solution.

This was a real tactical limitation for 109's.  Pilots who were not skilled enough to ensure symmetric slat deployment could not get full turning performance out of the aircraft at low speeds lest they encounter the "snatching" problem.

This would be fun to see in AH, especially if the slats were animated and could be heard making the "bang" sound they supposedly made when extending.

Nath-BDP

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Assymmetric Slat Deployment on Bf 109
« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2000, 03:51:00 PM »
They are modeled on the Me 262 and 109 in WWII Fighters, realy nice.

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funked

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Assymmetric Slat Deployment on Bf 109
« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2000, 03:54:00 PM »
La-5, La-5FN, and La-7 had this type of slats too.

Offline janjan

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« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2000, 02:32:00 AM »
Well, actually, I think they 'pop-up' separately anyway in tight turns, since the up pointing wintip is travelling faster and therefore the inside slat engage earlier.

funked

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« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2000, 05:32:00 AM »
Janjan I have an audio interview with the pilot of Bf 109G-2 "Black 6" where he says that careful use of the rudder can prevent the slats from popping out unevenly.

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« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2000, 06:21:00 AM »
C'mon funked - you know this problem only happened for those Allied testing pilots who were inexperienced in the operation of slats. You know, those RAF guys who learnt to fly on Tiger Moths, and then only ever flew Spitfires and Hurricanes.  

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« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2000, 06:26:00 AM »
Yes, make the 109 more tricky to fly.

I don't mind.

I'll just ask Verm to start nitpicking your favourite aircraft  .



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« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2000, 08:23:00 AM »
 
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I'll just ask Verm to start nitpicking your favourite aircraft

LOL!!  

Now my boss is staring at me, wondering why I am laughing so hard **wipes coffee off monitor**

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funked

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« Reply #8 on: October 17, 2000, 10:09:00 AM »
My favorite plane is the Fw 190A.  Vermillion, go ahead.  

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« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2000, 10:38:00 AM »
 
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Originally posted by funked:
My favorite plane is the Fw 190A.

They why do you fly Typhoons and Sissyfires?  

funked

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« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2000, 10:53:00 AM »
I was drafted.  

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« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2000, 10:56:00 AM »
 
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Originally posted by funked:
I was drafted.

While being pointed with a gun, I'm sure. And you repeated "no, please,no, no,please, no"!

 

(hehehehe)

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« Reply #12 on: October 17, 2000, 11:00:00 AM »
I was in the ready room at Herdla, getting some paint and a brush to add another victory mark to the rudder of my 190, when Fd-Ski and a band of Polish commandos burst in, tied me up with kielbasa.  After that I fell unconscious and the next thing I knew I was in a British sub on the way to London.  They told me I had two choices:  Fly for the Polish Air Force in-exile or eat British food.  I chose the former and here we are.  

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