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Offline PJ_Godzilla

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Poikies
« on: April 19, 2010, 10:58:47 AM »
In my quest to become a "real" cartoon fighter pilot, I continue working diligently.

Lately, for reasons I can't explain, I've gone back to flying 109s. Earlier, I'd had some frustration with the 109K but that was before my K/(d+1) had consistently gotten off the floor - it's like .6-.7 about now, nothing great but better than .3. I've been flying a lot of G-Series - mainly G-14 ( I like the Erla Haube), and I've been challenging myself by flying with gondos.

I note here that the G-14 has an ENY level of what, 20 or 25?

Yesterday, in the course of a little base pork,  I shot down a P-51D pilot by the name of WarSix. His pilot rating was 230-something, his fighter ranking 430-something. Incidentally, Floatsup was there and valuably commented, "well, now his name is WarSixfeetunder". I love this game.

When I landed,  I was pleasantly surprised to find I'd gotten something like 8 perk points for that.

My question: how is the level of "poiks" awarded determined?
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Re: Poikies
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2010, 11:02:30 AM »
The perk system is a way for HTC to introduce some interesting but otherwise unbalancing planes on a limited basis but the benefits go deeper than that.  Perk planes (and vehicles) would be things like Me 262s, Ta 152s, Tempests, B-29s, Ar 234s, Tiger IIs, etc.  These are interesting rides but would be very unbalancing if they were available on an unlimited basis.  So there won't be unlimited availability but they'll be available as bonuses or perks every so often.
You can earn a perk by accumulating Perk Points until you have reached the cost of the perk plane that you want.  You need to have the required amount of points to fly a given perk plane, but you do not lose those points unless you lose the perk plane, so survival is important when flying perk planes.  These points are totally separate from the regular scoring system and are not reset with a new tour.

There are three separate point totals, one for fighters, one for bombers, and one for vehicles.  Flying fighters earns fighter perk points and those points can only be used on perk fighters, not perk bombers or vehicles.  That's true for all 3 categories.  Plane, vehicle and boat multipliers and costs can be viewed in the model selection list on the clipboard in the Hangar.  Along with the fighter, bomber and vehicle perk point totals, the perk points earned on your last sortie are also displayed.



Perk Balancing System

To balance arena numbers, both perk points earned and the cost of perk planes are adjusted by the perk point bonus based on your countries numbers.  The formulas are as follows:

 
 

The formula for the perk point bonus is calculated at the start of a sortie as follows:


 

If you are in the country with the fewest number of players, you will earn more perk points per sortie and the perk planes will cost less.  Conversely, if you are in the country with the most players, you will earn less perk points per sortie and your perk planes will cost more.

Earning Perk Points

Points are awarded for both kills and damaging and destroying enemy targets.  This in turn is weighted by the type of plane that you and your opposition are using.  Flying the less popular planes will get you more points whether you are in air-to-air or air-to-ground mode.  Likewise, the higher quality the planes of your opposition, the more points you get for them.  If you shoot down lower quality planes with higher quality ones, you don't get much for doing that but you do get a lot for the exact opposite.  This makes shooting down a perk plane double rewarding as you deprive somebody of a perk and get more points for doing it.  Also, landing your sortie will apply a 1.25 multiplier to your perk points.


Examples:
With the values listed above, if you are flying the P-51D (ENY value of 18) and you score a kill on a Panzer (ENY value of 15), you would receive (18/15) = 1.20 fighter perk points.

Had the Panzer scored the kill on you in the P-51D, he would receive (15/18) = 0.83 vehicle perk points.

A TBM-3 with an OBJ value of 25 that destroys a bunker with a point value of 20 would receive (25/20) = 1.25 bomber perk points.

Of course, the values used in this example may not be the current values in the game.  The perk point multipliers are subject to change at any time without notice.

The controls in the perk system are in how fast points are accumulated and what point cost the perks are set to.  Because these points have a real and redeemable value, they're useful to influencing the flow of the game.  Aside from making it useful to fly less popular planes, we could do things like awarding points to the side that wins the war or dropping perk prices when your side is greatly outnumbered.

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Re: Poikies
« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2010, 11:02:37 AM »
My question: how is the level of "poiks" awarded determined?

(Your plane's ENY / Enemy ENY)*perk modifiers
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Re: Poikies
« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2010, 11:08:23 AM »
Yep, thanks for that.  I understood the cost issue, having flown XIVs and C-Hawgs a bit, as well as Spit Viii's midwar, but wanted the explanation on multipliers.

Any clue on how they weight the player count disparity?  Is it simply a ratio?
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Re: Poikies
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2010, 11:12:29 AM »
Lusche answer > Wall of text answer

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Re: Poikies
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2010, 11:15:14 AM »
Any clue on how they weight the player count disparity?  Is it simply a ratio?

Yes, it's straight from the player numbers in the arena. It's the same modifier you can see on clipboard in hangar for determining the price of perk planes.
On top of that, you also have the mission ending bonus, i.e. landing gives you more perks than ditching or getting shot down.


So flying a high ENY plane for the outnumbered side, killing a gaggle of ENY 5 planes and landing successfully will give you maximum perk points.
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Re: Poikies
« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2010, 11:32:55 AM »
Yes, Lusche >> Phil Spector Crazy Convict Wig-Headed Wall o' Sound, Vision, and Fury... (though the Man was thorough and trying genuinely to be helpful - he gets points in my "Big Book of People Who Genuinely Try to Be Helpful").

But Lusche?
Lusche is even better than that.

Lusche > Roni Spector, even after she made that song with Keith.

But that doesn't mean you'd rather pork him than her... or even her, these days.
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Re: Poikies
« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2010, 12:04:41 PM »
here is the easiest way to figure this out......

Example ME-262

Rook  cost............356
Bish   cost............355
Rook  cost............6

Thats pretty much it in a nutshell   :airplane:

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Re: Poikies
« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2010, 12:21:00 PM »
here is the easiest way to figure this out......

Example ME-262

Rook  cost............356
Bish   cost............355
Rook  cost............6

Thats pretty much it in a nutshell   :airplane:

I'm guessing that last one should be "Knight". What's your beef with Knights?

I'd refer you to the ICP's only feature-length and ultimately forgettable film, "Big Money Hustlas" in which Shaggy 2 Dope says, "ever who oppose the evil klowns is mah emmaknee!"

Is that what you're saying?

BTW: much better film in a similar genre (not that I watch much of this kind of thing) = Pimps Up, Ho's down.

Now that's a sentiment with broad-based bbs support.
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Re: Poikies
« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2010, 12:45:37 PM »
Yes PJ, that was supposed to say knights, and no, i dont have anything against them.....just you :lol

And by the way ....whatever your smokin........ramble on dude  :aok

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Re: Poikies
« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2010, 02:12:16 PM »
Yes PJ, that was supposed to say knights, and no, i dont have anything against them.....just you :lol

And by the way ....whatever your smokin........ramble on dude  :aok

Ah, my kind of skum... muzak to my ears.
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Re: Poikies
« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2010, 05:31:43 AM »
Someone in this thread has a fitting name. :lol
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