Pyro: FW-190F8 is missing a few 'important' loadouts

[Vruth]

Hey Pyro,

If the LW is to have a complete planeset with JABO capabilities, the FW190 F8 needs to have it's proper A2G selection.

While the P-51, P-38, and the P-47 all have decent loadout options, the F8 is seriously under equiped.

It could carry:
- Two 250kg irons on wings with Four 50kg bombs on the centerline; or
- Four 50kg bobs on the centerline with R4M rockets on the wings; or
- One 1000kg iron on the centerline with R4M rockets on the wings; or
- Two drop tanks on the wings with a 1000kg iron bomb on the centerline; or
- Two drop tanks on the wings with a four 50kg iron bombs on the centerline.

This of course exludes the PanzerBlitz rockets as a rocket option or other various combinations of 50kg on the wings, 500kg bomb on the centerline with bombs/rockets on the wings...  
 
Is it fair to say that 1.09 might increase the F8's loadout options?

V.

[ 10-28-2001: Message edited by: Vruth ]

[uberkid]

Yes, but what of all the different gun packs the F-8 and A-8 could carry? They could carry gun packs containing:
2x MG 151 machine guns
2x 20mm cannons
1x 30mm cannon

all of those could be carried. One under each wing. There is many more variations, I cant remember the rest.

[funkedup]

Vruth you are thinking of G-8 or one of the Rustatz kits for F-8.  Standard F-8 did not have provision for wing bombs beyond 50kg.

[Wotan]

After reading yet another post about the FW 190's missing loadout options I decided to pull out my books on the FW 190 and do some digging, I did some surfing to.What I came up with was the following list of "missing options", these options are the ones that have(or seam to)merit for addation to AH.
Bombs:


The basic "F8" was to to have been capable of carying a 500kg bomb on the centerline (or 4 50KG bombs on a bracket), and one 160KG bomb (or 2 50KG bombs) on each wing.

Rockets:

A program was started to test the abality of the panzerschrek rocket to be fired from the F8 aganst armor in the east this program was not finished howeaver, apparentaly it went so well they just went ahead and started to use the rockets, the RLM accepted the system.the system was then improved at least 2 more times, the second phase, the panzerblitz I came in late 44. In early 45 55mm AP rockets were fitted on a pair of racks each with 6 rockets under the wings.
This system was used and improved appon over time as is evedenced by the continued development of the concept.

Big bombs:

I found no evedence of 1000KG bombs being used in a regular way what so ever.
Howeaver the F8/U2 and F8/U3 were special varients capable of carying the 700KG BT700 and the 1,400KK BT1400 respectavely, these were special torpedo bombs for antishiping or hardned targets. KG200 was the only unit( I beleave) to have used them and in very limited numbers.

A8 Rustsatze:
The following are 2 field conversion kits that were often fitted to the A8 series.

R-2 MK 108 cannon under each wing.
R-12 Mk 108 cannon in each outer wing.

The abality to use the AT rockets or to cary 8 50KG or 2 160KG and 1 500KG bomb would greatly enhance the F8's abality to do it's main mishion , JABO. Since their is a ton of evedence to support these options i would hope they could be added in the future.

Sources:

Focke Wulf FW 190
Robert Grinsel

FW 190 in Action
Jerry l. Campbell

Wings of the Luftwaffe
Capt Erich Brown

Encylopedia of Military Aircraft
Angelucci

TM 1985 series.

 

originally posted by brady (see his post)

[Tony Williams]

The much more powerful 30mm MK 103 cannon was also fitted in underwing gunpods for anti-tank purposes, but it was not considered successful and saw little use.

Tony Williams
Author: "Rapid Fire: The development of automatic cannon, heavy machine guns and their ammunition for armies, navies and air forces"
Details on my military gun and ammunition website: http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~autogun/index.htm

[Glasses]

<Punt>

Please Pyro look into it.