turn arena caps off again...

[vafiii]

Should only be one WWI arena and one WWII arena in my opinion. The more people in one arena the better. I like the action!

[Knite]

Should only be one WWI arena and one WWII arena in my opinion. The more people in one arena the better. I like the action!

That will likely never happen Vafii, and the quotes in one of Skuzzy's replies are just a few of the responses to that wish. As it stands right now, that style of play actually hurts HTC as a company, which is not good for the longevity of the brand/game.

[Traveler]

Raising the minimums does not solve any problems.  It will just take longer for the second arena to reach a level players are happy/okay with.

It does not have to do with hordes, it has to do with our business.  HiTech and Pyro have both explained the business reasons behind it.  

If you continue to make it about something else, you are just beating your head against the wall and all we can do is sell the popcorn for the show.

HiTech sees only two things connected to membership subscription

1.   Before arena split AH was no longer growing.
2.   After arena split AH started growing faster than it ever had.

Now there really is only 1 reason for this, more people are having fun, and thus subscribe.


That’s per skuzzy’s quote of Hitech.  No other business or economic factors could be the cause of a two week trial not turning into a full subscription.  The only answer is to install Caps in the arenas.  End of story.  

The worst recession since the Great Depression has nothing to do with it.    The fact that the this recession actually got started way back following 9/11, has little or nothing to do with it.  That the Economy has been dragged down little by little as funding priorities shifted from our government right down through Wall Street with the final bill landing on Main Street.  None of that has had an impact on High Tech Creations subscriptions as much as the number of players in an arena.

You’d think that with 20 to 30 million Americans out of work and running out of credit that might have more of an impact on subscription retention.  I know that our squad member ship is down by half.  They didn’t like the hassle of arena caps but we just all went into what ever LW Arena that all of us could get into.  However, 6 of our members had to stop playing because of the cost of the game.  I left the game for 3 months because I was out of work.  When I closed my account I wasn’t asked Why I was no longer subscribing ?  I just received a confirmation online that my account was deleted.

It seems that WWI has three arenas.  All for the same period of time of the war.  WWII has many arenas,  My squad plays in one of the LW Arenas. When I fly other then on squad night, I fly in the largest number LW Arena that I can get into.  Could the LW Arena be broken into the following:

One LW with no CAP aka Titanic Tuesday type areana, only paid members allowed.
Two LW arenas with the current CAP system in place for balancing the fun factor also, this would be where members on the two free week option would have to play.  These arenas would be optional for paid members. And two week subscription would  have access to other arenas, AVA, LWE, LWM.

[The Fugitive]

HiTech sees only two things connected to membership subscription

1.   Before arena split AH was no longer growing.
2.   After arena split AH started growing faster than it ever had.

Now there really is only 1 reason for this, more people are having fun, and thus subscribe.


That’s per skuzzy’s quote of Hitech.  No other business or economic factors could be the cause of a two week trial not turning into a full subscription.  The only answer is to install Caps in the arenas.  End of story.  

The worst recession since the Great Depression has nothing to do with it.    The fact that the this recession actually got started way back following 9/11, has little or nothing to do with it.  That the Economy has been dragged down little by little as funding priorities shifted from our government right down through Wall Street with the final bill landing on Main Street.  None of that has had an impact on High Tech Creations subscriptions as much as the number of players in an arena.

You’d think that with 20 to 30 million Americans out of work and running out of credit that might have more of an impact on subscription retention.  I know that our squad member ship is down by half.  They didn’t like the hassle of arena caps but we just all went into what ever LW Arena that all of us could get into.  However, 6 of our members had to stop playing because of the cost of the game.  I left the game for 3 months because I was out of work.  When I closed my account I wasn’t asked Why I was no longer subscribing ?  I just received a confirmation online that my account was deleted.

It seems that WWI has three arenas.  All for the same period of time of the war.  WWII has many arenas,  My squad plays in one of the LW Arenas. When I fly other then on squad night, I fly in the largest number LW Arena that I can get into.  Could the LW Arena be broken into the following:

One LW with no CAP aka Titanic Tuesday type areana, only paid members allowed.
Two LW arenas with the current CAP system in place for balancing the fun factor also, this would be where members on the two free week option would have to play.  These arenas would be optional for paid members. And two week subscription would  have access to other arenas, AVA, LWE, LWM.

There were 3 WWI arenas because the anticipated a large crowd due to WWI being new. I'm sure you'll see two of the WWI arena to disappear soon now that the "new" has worn off of WWI.

As for the "growth" of the subscriptions, it's kinda funny how it seems to be growing while we are in this resecession. I know I was out of work for 6 months but never got bad enough for me to cancel my subscription. Things are starting to pick up in the economy and now there is a post that "Fighter Ace" is closing their doors.

Not only will you never see a no cap LW arena ever again.....other than those "Terrible Tuesdays".... I'd be willing to bet we may see a third arena added to the LW dynamic cap system if we see a big enough influx of people from FA.

[Traveler]

There were 3 WWI arenas because the anticipated a large crowd due to WWI being new. I'm sure you'll see two of the WWI arena to disappear soon now that the "new" has worn off of WWI.

As for the "growth" of the subscriptions, it's kinda funny how it seems to be growing while we are in this resecession. I know I was out of work for 6 months but never got bad enough for me to cancel my subscription. Things are starting to pick up in the economy and now there is a post that "Fighter Ace" is closing their doors.

Not only will you never see a no cap LW arena ever again.....other than those "Terrible Tuesdays".... I'd be willing to bet we may see a third arena added to the LW dynamic cap system if we see a big enough influx of people from FA.

You say subscriptions are growing, does HiTech share that information with you?  I know that we lost 6 members of our squad due to Unemployment.  I think it depends on where in the country you live.  6 months , you were lucky. there are many in my area, in my town that are  going on two years.  Lost homes, savings, retirement, all gone.  I don't know if subscriptions are growing or not, as far as I know, HTC does not share that information with anyone. 

As to the stated reasons for the CAP system in the arena.  If the arena with no caps is the problem for new players not becoming subscribers then having the caps system works for those that want it.  I’m just asking for an additional arena like Titanic Tuesday with no caps.  You would still have your LW arena with limited numbers to control the fun and people like myself that like the uncapped arena with large numbers would have an arena in which to play more then the once a week.

If your telling me that HTC has plans to put in even more limited arenas so numbers will be even smaller.  Well when that happens, I’ll become one of the lost subscriptions.

[rapp25]

not being able to get into orange arena after a days work is annoying, remove the cap or at least make a huge arena of say 500 players for ww2

[Krusty]

... if we see a big enough influx of people from FA.

Not likely. You're talking probably a player base of a couple hundred or so. Ah has between 5000 and 10000 players at best guesses. That's a real drop in the bucket so to speak. Doubt it'll impact the sever load levels all that much.

[The Fugitive]

You say subscriptions are growing, does HiTech share that information with you?  I know that we lost 6 members of our squad due to Unemployment.  I think it depends on where in the country you live.  6 months , you were lucky. there are many in my area, in my town that are  going on two years.  Lost homes, savings, retirement, all gone.  I don't know if subscriptions are growing or not, as far as I know, HTC does not share that information with anyone.  

As to the stated reasons for the CAP system in the arena.  If the arena with no caps is the problem for new players not becoming subscribers then having the caps system works for those that want it.  I’m just asking for an additional arena like Titanic Tuesday with no caps.  You would still have your LW arena with limited numbers to control the fun and people like myself that like the uncapped arena with large numbers would have an arena in which to play more then the once a week.

If your telling me that HTC has plans to put in even more limited arenas so numbers will be even smaller.  Well when that happens, I’ll become one of the lost subscriptions.

I'm basing the numbers on the number of new people I see in the arenas. Sure most are kids, but as long as Mommy and Daddy are paying it's the same thing.

Also it wasn't just that the 2 weekers weren't subscribing that caused HTC to look at a way to add another arena they were losing many old time players too. So adding another arena to be a full time TT is going to cause the same issues it did before. HTC has already said they won't go back to a full time single arena due to those FACTS. The only issue that is really up for discussion here is how to make two arenas playable at the same time. Dynamic caps is the one they have settled on until a new idea can be thought up.

Not likely. You're talking probably a player base of a couple hundred or so. Ah has between 5000 and 10000 players at best guesses. That's a real drop in the bucket so to speak. Doubt it'll impact the sever load levels all that much.

While I'm sure HTC would love to see an influx of 200 players your right I don't think we'll see that many. On the other hand if they did see 200 more a night that would surely be pushing the limits of 2 "healthy" arenas, and so maybe a third would be next in coming. Remember they are going to do whats best for the company.

[Krusty]

I don't mean 200 a night, I mean total. You might find a rise in ... what? 20 per night? All different time zones and personal schedules, you wouldn't get them all at once.

[1COOLER]

I don't like the caps either.

[hitech]

HiTech sees only two things connected to membership subscription

1.   Before arena split AH was no longer growing.
2.   After arena split AH started growing faster than it ever had.

Now there really is only 1 reason for this, more people are having fun, and thus subscribe.


That’s per skuzzy’s quote of Hitech.  No other business or economic factors could be the cause of a two week trial not turning into a full subscription.  The only answer is to install Caps in the arenas.  End of story.  

The worst recession since the Great Depression has nothing to do with it.    The fact that the this recession actually got started way back following 9/11, has little or nothing to do with it.  That the Economy has been dragged down little by little as funding priorities shifted from our government right down through Wall Street with the final bill landing on Main Street.  None of that has had an impact on High Tech Creations subscriptions as much as the number of players in an arena.

You’d think that with 20 to 30 million Americans out of work and running out of credit that might have more of an impact on subscription retention.  I know that our squad member ship is down by half.  They didn’t like the hassle of arena caps but we just all went into what ever LW Arena that all of us could get into.  However, 6 of our members had to stop playing because of the cost of the game.  I left the game for 3 months because I was out of work.  When I closed my account I wasn’t asked Why I was no longer subscribing ?  I just received a confirmation online that my account was deleted.

It seems that WWI has three arenas.  All for the same period of time of the war.  WWII has many arenas,  My squad plays in one of the LW Arenas. When I fly other then on squad night, I fly in the largest number LW Arena that I can get into.  Could the LW Arena be broken into the following:

One LW with no CAP aka Titanic Tuesday type areana, only paid members allowed.
Two LW arenas with the current CAP system in place for balancing the fun factor also, this would be where members on the two free week option would have to play.  These arenas would be optional for paid members. And two week subscription would  have access to other arenas, AVA, LWE, LWM.

Oh golly g. I only in buzzness of game for 15 years, G i woulda neva thought of those fansee buznas tings 3 years ago when we spit the arenaas. And ya how ya know that ressionsion ended same day we changed our arena, boy what a coinsidence, 1 year no grow, change areana next week wee growen again, And all tis time I thougth was the arena change. Tanks travelr for that great insightfull information.

Oh and skuzzy was speaking of the change 3 years.

 
HiTech 

[The Fugitive]

Oh golly g. I only in buzzness of game for 15 years, G i woulda neva thought of those fansee buznas tings 3 years ago when we spit the arenaas. And ya how ya know that ressionsion ended same day we changed our arena, boy what a coinsidence, 1 year no grow, change areana next week wee growen again, And all tis time I thougth was the arena change. Tanks travelr for that great insightfull information.

Oh and skuzzy was speaking of the change 3 years.

 
HiTech 

Damn and here I thought you had that whole "spell check" thing worked out ! 

[321BAR]

Oh golly g. I only in buzzness of game for 15 years, G i woulda neva thought of those fansee buznas tings 3 years ago when we spit the arenaas. And ya how ya know that ressionsion ended same day we changed our arena, boy what a coinsidence, 1 year no grow, change areana next week wee growen again, And all tis time I thougth was the arena change. Tanks travelr for that great insightfull information.

Oh and skuzzy was speaking of the change 3 years.

 
HiTech