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Re: Dornier Do 335
« Reply #45 on: May 04, 2010, 12:05:09 PM »
Would you consider Clostermann's report as combat or not? If not, why?
If shooting down V-1s that may very well explode and kill you doesn't count as combat or setting up to tangle with some Fw190s before being chased off by some Spitfires who thought your Meteors were Me262s doesn't count as combat, running away from some aircraft without ever getting remotely close to be shot at certainly doesn't count as combat either.  The consensus on this board seems to be that the first two are not combat.

My personal take on it is that it was not combat as there was no danger of anybody firing weapons in that encounter, if it actually happened, due to the Do335's massive speed advantage over the Tempest.


Even if it was combat, you still don't have a production aircraft in service at full squadron service, unlike every aircraft in AH and even things like the Meteor and He162.
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Re: Dornier Do 335
« Reply #46 on: May 04, 2010, 12:18:01 PM »
one question
did the Dornier 335 in question have ammo?
if he was un armed then it cannot have been a combat situation

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Re: Dornier Do 335
« Reply #47 on: May 04, 2010, 12:27:56 PM »
     I'm not sure the guys in the photo-recon birds would agree with your definition  :D
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Re: Dornier Do 335
« Reply #48 on: May 04, 2010, 12:29:12 PM »
Would you consider Clostermann's report as combat or not? If not, why?

As I undersand it, one must sometimes take Clostermann's reports with a grain of salt in general.



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Re: Dornier Do 335
« Reply #49 on: May 04, 2010, 12:51:51 PM »
     I'm not sure the guys in the photo-recon birds would agree with your definition  :D
Guys in photo-recon birds actually got shot at, and got shot down at times, something the Do335 never was.
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Re: Dornier Do 335
« Reply #50 on: May 04, 2010, 01:04:37 PM »
If shooting down V-1s that may very well explode and kill you doesn't count as combat or setting up to tangle with some Fw190s before being chased off by some Spitfires who thought your Meteors were Me262s doesn't count as combat, running away from some aircraft without ever getting remotely close to be shot at certainly doesn't count as combat either.  The consensus on this board seems to be that the first two are not combat.

My personal take on it is that it was not combat as there was no danger of anybody firing weapons in that encounter, if it actually happened, due to the Do335's massive speed advantage over the Tempest.


Even if it was combat, you still don't have a production aircraft in service at full squadron service, unlike every aircraft in AH and even things like the Meteor and He162.

Meteor, - in production, in combat gear,in squadron strength, in the war-zone, and in some action, failing the enemy to show up properly to draw blood.
The Dornier, - in pre-production, in none combat gear, not in squadron strength, unwillingly in the war-zone, and being seen once, turned the tail.
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Re: Dornier Do 335
« Reply #51 on: May 05, 2010, 12:59:35 PM »
I realise that German accounts of combat in this plane dont egsist...,BUT Allied accounts do.
I recall a book about Typhoon pilots, in which said pilot attempted to "catch" a plane running away on the deck, he described the plane as having "one propeler in front, and one in the rear" and while this doesnt qualify as combat in most peoples eyes, the plane wasnt there running initial flight tests in a combat area obviously, (unless that was one stupid test pilot)...
Unfortunatly I cant remember the name of the dang book to save my life.

Through interference from other German manufactur's, and bombing of the 1st production line, the 335's production was kept low... It fits in somwhere bettween me-163 and the Natter (rocket propelld/verticaly launched interceptor) in that it was undergoing trials by fire..., but didnt serve in "squadron" service like the 163 did, (somthing I find hard to believe, in that I deffinatly doubt 163's where opperated in anything like  squadron service when you get down to it.)

The point is that by the end of the war, production and implimentation of a new design was highly unlikly, so the D-335 started with its foot in the bucket, and was left by the wayside while other weapons where givin priority.

I would personaly like to see it introduced, and believe it should be a viable plane in the game...., for the simple fact that it WAS flown in combat (Yes, even hauling tail away from a Typhoon counts as combat in my book, if you dont think so try it sometime), and the Allies at-least had a shot at it in combat conditions (unlike the BearCat, Meteor) :aok

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Re: Dornier Do 335
« Reply #52 on: May 05, 2010, 01:03:22 PM »
Dangit....NO...

After thinking for about 5 minutes I realise its just not enough..., lol
Its a pipe dream, and there are other aircraft more deserving and with real combat records.

I've changed my mind, I vote no. :frown:
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Re: Dornier Do 335
« Reply #53 on: May 05, 2010, 01:29:19 PM »
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