Can we get a German Bomber with Range...:)?

[Krusty]

Its range is considerably higher than 240 miles (480 with 1x fuel burn).

Again you're flying full throttle and well above optimal (FTH) alts.

Even wikipedia claims 1400 mile range (and that may be 1-way ferry range? I don't know for sure)

Other sources list as high as 1700 miles range.

So if you're only getting 240 miles on full internal fuel (approx 480 with 1x burn), you're not doing it right.

[papjohns]

Not on maps that are only 250 (small) resp 500 (large) miles across. Medium bombers had range limits in RL, and so they have in AH.

Yes, and that's why I want the HE177...

[papjohns]

Its range is considerably higher than 240 miles (480 with 1x fuel burn).

Again you're flying full throttle and well above optimal (FTH) alts.

Even wikipedia claims 1400 mile range (and that may be 1-way ferry range? I don't know for sure)

Other sources list as high as 1700 miles range.

So if you're only getting 240 miles on full internal fuel (approx 480 with 1x burn), you're not doing it right.

You have to take the climb to 18k into account....you are right if we would have taken off from the Af and went level it would have been much more. I went to tha TA for 1 hour prior to the mission to plan out the ranges, if you can get more range out of the JU88 given the parameters please tell me how, I would really like to know.

Sorry I would like to apologize for my bad math, we figured 275miles (so add 35 miles). Still a joke inmho.

[Lusche]

Its range is considerably higher than 240 miles (480 with 1x fuel burn).

in AH not really.

Total flight time at full military is 67 minutes. Optimum altitude for a Ju 88 is 18k, but a 100% fuel + 4x500kg Ju 88 (even without the 50kg bombs) takes about 30 minutes alone to reach that alt.

[BrownBaron]

Its range is considerably higher than 240 miles (480 with 1x fuel burn).

A quick equation here....

480 miles with 1x burn mult.

2x burn mult in the MA.

480/2=.....

taadaa

240  

[Krusty]

You miss my point. I wasn't saying that's what it was. I was saying it was more than that on 2x, and more than this on 1x. Even a 109 (relatively short range) has more range than that at over 600mi on 1x.

[BigKev03]

I took some 88's out the other night to test this.  I got more than the 11 sectors stated in the original post.  I kept my rate of climb below 1.5 in my accent to 20k.  once there I leveled at chopped back the throttle to maximum cruise.  I got up and walked away from the computer.  Was gone for a good 30 minutes came back and still airborn with about 40% remaining.  I agree with other posters if you run full throttle you will burn your fuel faster.  Use the max cruise setign and it has very good range.

BigKev

[papjohns]

I took some 88's out the other night to test this.  I got more than the 11 sectors stated in the original post.  I kept my rate of climb below 1.5 in my accent to 20k.  once there I leveled at chopped back the throttle to maximum cruise.  I got up and walked away from the computer.  Was gone for a good 30 minutes came back and still airborn with about 40% remaining.  I agree with other posters if you run full throttle you will burn your fuel faster.  Use the max cruise setign and it has very good range.

BigKev

What range did you get? As I am unable to reproduce this. Rate of climb below 1.5? 1.5 what? Please pardon my ignorance. Was this in the MA or TA? Thanks.

[gyrene81]

What range did you get? As I am unable to reproduce this. Rate of climb below 1.5? 1.5 what? Please pardon my ignorance. Was this in the MA or TA? Thanks.

1.5 thousand hundred feet per minute. That is a good climb rate for a fully loaded Ju-88 to 20k...most times I can barely maintain 900 feet per minute above 15k.

[papjohns]

1.5 thousand hundred feet per minute. That is a good climb rate for a fully loaded Ju-88 to 20k...most times I can barely maintain 900 feet per minute above 15k.

That's why I was curious about this....1.5k/min in an 88 with 2k kg of bombs and 100% fuel? Good luck. Hence I am assuming he meant something else. Unless I am supposed to drop good luck charms or friendship medals on the capital....

[RTHolmes]

it does beg the question how the RL Ju 88A-4 managed a range of 1500m+. I dont see how this is possible in AHs A-4, even with fuel burn at 1.0.

something here doesnt add up

[gyrene81]

it does beg the question how the RL Ju 88A-4 managed a range of 1500m+. I dont see how this is possible in AHs A-4, even with fuel burn at 1.0.

something here doesnt add up

Fuel management. If you have the distance and not a lot of interference...you can drop your rpms and throttle back to max cruise settings...climb in increments of say 3 to 5k...level out, reach max cruise speed, set climb to 1.5 until you have climbed 3 to 5k up...level out again until you reach max cruise...rinse/repeat. I've tried it and it works better than a steady climb to 20k but...in the MAs who wants to spend 2 hours on a single bombing run...especially in Ju-88s?


AckAck and Krusty would have better information but I remember reading somewhere that the Ju-88s would run their missions at under 20k and they had a lot of fighter support...of course they lost a lot to enemy fighters too...not as much as the He-111s, but still significant numbers. Considering the multi-purpose roll the 88s had, it wouldn't surprise me if 10k was standard operating alt after the BoB.