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Offline Greebo

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Re: Grumman F6F-6
« Reply #15 on: May 09, 2010, 03:39:31 PM »
If  a plane was in production and in squad level service, it should be here. I thin F8f should be here
 eventually with a high perk (50 to 100).

Just wondering how many F8Fs ten years of perks would get me......  :x

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Re: Grumman F6F-6
« Reply #16 on: May 09, 2010, 03:46:02 PM »
It is a valid point since this is a simulation not a historical reenactment. Accordingly any plane in active service at squadron strength in a unit that was combat capable should be eligible for inclusion.

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Re: Grumman F6F-6
« Reply #17 on: May 09, 2010, 03:49:05 PM »
The P51-H was in a "What plane next" poll by HTC a long time ago. Did that stang even see combat?



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Re: Grumman F6F-6
« Reply #18 on: May 09, 2010, 03:52:48 PM »
The F8F should not be included simply on the demerit that it's one of the most hideous aircraft to almost see service in any war.

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Re: Grumman F6F-6
« Reply #19 on: May 09, 2010, 04:42:08 PM »
First time in my life I've ever had to disagree with Motherland. This, Ugly? No!



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Re: Grumman F6F-6
« Reply #20 on: May 09, 2010, 05:19:27 PM »
Are you kidding? Look at that big hideous "NAVY" on the side. You could at LEAST pick one that says MARINES.

Regardless, I think the "had to see combat" rule is a valid one.
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Re: Grumman F6F-6
« Reply #21 on: May 09, 2010, 05:28:26 PM »
f8f is pretty siptfire is ugly


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Re: Grumman F6F-6
« Reply #22 on: May 10, 2010, 01:16:36 PM »
The P51-H was in a "What plane next" poll by HTC a long time ago. Did that stang even see combat?

Never fired a shot in anger nor did it every see an enemy aircraft and was deemed unsuitable for combat in Korea.


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Re: Grumman F6F-6
« Reply #23 on: May 10, 2010, 02:20:41 PM »
OK so since when does the navy operate in Denver, however it does bring up a great song to fly the F-8 to :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLcfz8jMKzM

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Re: Grumman F6F-6
« Reply #24 on: May 10, 2010, 02:27:15 PM »
Perhaps one of the non-populated arenas could be converted to a Post War arena, where F7F, F8F, P-63s and other post war birds could fight it out. I think part of the fun and attraction of a 'SIM' is the "what if?" scenarios. It would be fun to see how some of these birds would have performed if the war had gone on for a few years longer. I believe a long time ago there was a sim called 1946, or something like that, I think this was the premise. It may also have contained some planes that only made the protoype stage like the Do 335[?] Arrow, the German interceptor with a pusher and puller prop, among others.

I get the value of the current HTC rules for plane inclusion in the game, but the historic representation is a bit compromised by lightning fighting mustangs fighting corsairs etc, anyway. Perhaps a Post War arena would be fun enough to warrant adding planes that don't meet the current rules for inclusion just so we could see "what if?"
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Re: Grumman F6F-6
« Reply #25 on: May 10, 2010, 02:38:51 PM »
Perhaps one of the non-populated arenas could be converted to a Post War arena, where F7F, F8F, P-63s and other post war birds could fight it out. I think part of the fun and attraction of a 'SIM' is the "what if?" scenarios. It would be fun to see how some of these birds would have performed if the war had gone on for a few years longer. I believe a long time ago there was a sim called 1946, or something like that, I think this was the premise. It may also have contained some planes that only made the protoype stage like the Do 335[?] Arrow, the German interceptor with a pusher and puller prop, among others.

I get the value of the current HTC rules for plane inclusion in the game, but the historic representation is a bit compromised by lightning fighting mustangs fighting corsairs etc, anyway. Perhaps a Post War arena would be fun enough to warrant adding planes that don't meet the current rules for inclusion just so we could see "what if?"

The 1946 sim was an IL-2 expansion with aircraft that not only didn't see combat but didn't ever even get off the drawing board.  Of course some have mentioned that correct flight models has not been a great concern in IL-2 anyway.

What if.... HTC took the time and resources to model these aircaft but they were not available in any arena?  Like the RV-8?  Make them "what if..." scenario aircraft only.


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Re: Grumman F6F-6
« Reply #26 on: May 10, 2010, 02:55:45 PM »
I've always been curious where the "current HTC rules" are specific to inclusion of a specific plane. All i've ever found is this...

Aces High is a massive multi-player online combat simulation centered around the World War II air-war. Here are some of the highlights. 


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Re: Grumman F6F-6
« Reply #27 on: May 10, 2010, 03:04:41 PM »
Perhaps one of the non-populated arenas could be converted to a Post War arena, where F7F, F8F, P-63s and other post war birds could fight it out. I think part of the fun and attraction of a 'SIM' is the "what if?" scenarios. It would be fun to see how some of these birds would have performed if the war had gone on for a few years longer. I believe a long time ago there was a sim called 1946, or something like that, I think this was the premise. It may also have contained some planes that only made the protoype stage like the Do 335[?] Arrow, the German interceptor with a pusher and puller prop, among others.

I get the value of the current HTC rules for plane inclusion in the game, but the historic representation is a bit compromised by lightning fighting mustangs fighting corsairs etc, anyway. Perhaps a Post War arena would be fun enough to warrant adding planes that don't meet the current rules for inclusion just so we could see "what if?"
What if is great if you don't mind "what if" settings for the flight models and the interiors...lack of documentation which is important when trying to model something. The game you're thinking about is IL2-1946...and although "cool" it was ok if you didn't know any better. There were a couple of things that were done very well but overall, the entire game was lacking.



What if.... HTC took the time and resources to model these aircaft but they were not available in any arena?  Like the RV-8?  Make them "what if..." scenario aircraft only.

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That would be a great idea...as long as no one wanted anything else added to or improved upon in AH. As if HTC has the manpower or the desire to devote all resources to the "what if"...you guys have to stop thinking HTC is some big game developer.
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Re: Grumman F6F-6
« Reply #28 on: May 10, 2010, 03:45:22 PM »
P-63.... :aok
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Re: Grumman F6F-6
« Reply #29 on: May 10, 2010, 05:12:19 PM »
The inevitable result of running out of late war WWII American gear isn't people switching to ask for other nation's WWII gear, it is to ask for American gear that didn't make it....
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